Eva Durant wrote:
>
> The pie had a remarkable growth in this century,
Define "pie" please. A majority of Nobel winners alive have signed a
Warning to Humanity about the rapid *shrinkage* of the "pie" both in
toto, & far more severely - per capita.
> and if all the waste of research and resources
> for arm and car production for example
> turned into socially useful activities,
> such as environmental protection,
> the scope is limitless.
Some things limitless on earth are human imagination, blind faith,
& speculation. Until our sun dies, we do get it's radiation, but even
that isn't "limitless" in quantity.
> If you see a limited pie, your only scope
> is the annihilation of most of humanity.
It seems your scope is limited by ideology. I seek slow attrition
via voluntary low birth rates; annhilation is an alternative.
>
> We have to count on the population levelling out -
Sure, it's inevitable. See: http://www.dieoff.org/page1.htm
> which can only be achieved with adequate
> distribution of the pie,
Equally insufficient amounts of food, water, energy... lead to
equalized
death. Nature doesn't work that way. No other life form (except
humans)
attempts this impossibility. Also, every human displaces non-human
habitat.
Those other lifeforms *are* the pie!! Univ of Toronto has detailed
studies
of Envir., Pop., & Security (Peace & Conflict Studies):
http://library.utoronto.ca/www/pcs/eps.htm
> To make the juiciest and biggest pie
> you have to try to think outside
> of the present economic framework.
This pie "makes itself". Did you read the short excerpt I posted
from David Suzuki? I wish we could just think our way out of the
dilemma.:-)
Technology and good feelings cannot replace nature. BTW, I agree re
arms &
"dirty" industries as part of problem; but elimination is not
sufficient
for "resolutique".
Steve Kurtz
