Apologies for a bit off-topic:

BTW, given that some folks at Apple don’t seem to be great fans of COLRv1,
while Google isn’t a great fan of SVG, chances are that we’ll see the
phasing out of "sbix" and "CBDT", but both COLRv1 and SVG will stick around
— also because SVG allows bitmaps. Check out:

- https://creativemarket.com/search?q=opentype+svg
- https://creativemarket.com/romanjusdado/2950202-Wooden-Tiles-Font
-
https://creativemarket.com/SamParrett/5150302-Glory-Culture-SVG-Font-Extras
-
https://creativemarket.com/helloimgreg/2330313-Stranger-Times-OpenType-SVG-Font
of su
This stuff is all bitmap-based, it’s all released fonts available on the
market, and for now, they’re OT+SVG only. COLRv1 won’t replace them.

This means that we’ll keep seeing OT+SVG fonts, OT+COLRv1 fonts and quite
possibly _hybrid_ OT+SVG+COLRv1 fonts, which kind of make sense if the font
vendor wants to make the users’ life simple.

I’m just saying — the hybrid OT+SVG+COLRv1 font is not an eccentricity, I
think it’ll be reality — especially if font editor vendors like FontLab
make creation of such hybrids easy.

With 4 separate color font flavors, the market acceptance was low (but
still, people have made many such fonts). But as soon as those flavors are
down to just 2, I think both will stick around. (Though I do see a reason
for sbix to also exist, especially in Apple’s own HEIC flavor, not PNG,
which they use on iOS).

Best,
Adam


On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 5:07 PM Cosimo Lupo via FreeType development <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Werner and all,
> please find attached a test COLRv1 + SVG font, containing only one color
> glyph ✍ "WRITING HAND" (U+270D) emoji.
> The font was built using nanoemoji
> <https://github.com/googlefonts/nanoemoji> using the following command,
> from the root of the noto-emoji
> <https://github.com/googlefonts/noto-emoji> repository:
>
> $ nanoemoji --color_format=glyf_colr_1_and_picosvg --keep_glyph_names
> --pretty_print --family "Noto Color Emoji COLRv1 And SVG"
> svg/emoji_u270d.svg
>
> Let me know if that is what you are looking for.
> Cheers
>
> Cosimo
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 7:51 PM Werner LEMBERG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Do you still need such a test font with SVG and COLR in it? I guess,
>> > we can make one if it's needed.
>>
>> This would be still very helpful, yes.  I think it would be helpful
>> for for fuzzing, too.  A single glyph (besides '.notdef) would be
>> enough.
>>
>> >> The question doesn't arise for serious `COLR` handling, as
>> >> described above.  In case of the convenience `COLR` rendering,
>> >> `SVG` takes precendence.
>> >
>> > I think the table preference decision should be made by the
>> > application, or in the FT_LoadGlyph then with flags that allow
>> > separate selection?
>>
>> Since the convenience stuff is tagged as experimental, and Alexei has
>> some serious concerns I probably won't change anything right now.
>>
>> > FWIW, overall, I think if a font has COLRv1 and SVG, COLRv1 should
>> > have preference as it enables variable capabilities.
>>
>> This is up to the application; there is no issue w.r.t. precendence at
>> all.
>>
>>
>>     Werner
>>
>

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