Thanks for filling me in folks. Its been 20 years or since I wrote and
distributed freeware. My calculator has true floating point IO with 16
digit base ten precision including decimal point when it appears in the 16
count. I think the precision was higher in the actual internal calcs of
the compiler. If I remember right I used Quick Cs long double data type.
I heard Windows 8 will have a key and any box that wants to run Windows 8
will have to have a matching key in the firmware to run it. A box with
such a key will not run any other OS. I've heard some manufacturer's are
grudgingly complying but with a dip switch on the motherboard that will
disable the feature and allow other OSs to run on the box.
On another note I'm noticing a problem with C++ writing my app. The code
doesn't really show enough information about the class or character of the
objects and the operators that join objects, mostly the good old . (dot),
don't give enough information about how the objects interact. After all
the platforms and compilers I've used I have a weird organic intuitive way
of writing code so it didn't create a lot of problems for me, but I can see
how the conventions of C++ can be as confusing and awkward as the problems
it was designed to address, especially in team environments or for
newbies. They should have spent the effort that went into C++ on writing a
smarter C compiler that handled the problems transparently or at the very
least gave the code writer a better idea of the bug. Some of the errors
and exceptions are still fairly cryptic and generic for what often turns
out to be a fairly specific minor flaw. I'm not sure I like this
compartmentalized Sea.Bottom.Hole.Log.Bump.Frog.Wart.Hair style of coding.
I mean yeah I get it, but, its awkward for small simple apps and it would
be a real pain in the ass and time user explaining your structure in team
environments. The actual base functions of any CPU are pretty simple and
straightforward. Hard to believe all this complexity is required to use
that simplicity these days. Ah maybe one day you'll just be able to tell
the box in everyday language what you want to do and it'll handle it all.
In the meantime we're stuck with the flaky compilers and awkward languages.
Sea.Bottom.Hole.Log.Bump.Frog.Wart.Hair See what I mean about what's
missing in explicitly describing the relationships? You need to much a
priori information about the objects and how the relate to each other to
effectively understand the structure.
CB
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Rugxulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Jim Michaels <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > xp support will be phased out next year (2014).
>
> Yes, in case you haven't noticed, they want everyone to upgrade.
>
> > there is support in windows 7 "xp mode" (via a virtual machine called
> > microsoft virtual pc) for win7ult.
>
> Not meant for home users (minimal graphics support), not even
> officially allowed except on business class editions of Windows.
>
> > works on 64 and 32-bit. emulates 32-bit
> > xp, which is the only version that has command.com so it can run djgpp.
>
> I once heard that VPC only supported a Pentium 2. While that's not
> exactly painful, it's still worse than a native install. More
> important would be speed, but I have no idea how good or bad it fares.
>
> > I need to test and see if my 64-bit box will run djgpp without
> > modification... this i something I need to find out, because I would
> still
> > like to do dos development.
> > it would be a quick test.
> > but my 64-bit box is inaccessible right now.
>
> Yes, all x64 cpus (AFAIK) still support 16-bit real mode and all the
> old 8086 instructions. Though most don't really let you do that within
> 64-bit long mode itself (outside of some form of VT-X).
>
> I still occasionally run FreeDOS in Win7 64-bit under VirtualBox. More
> often is DOSEMU under 32-bit (Lucid) Puppy Linux, thanks to V86 mode.
> And even more often I use native FreeDOS on bare metal. They all have
> different advantages, though honestly a native install (or even USB
> via RUFUS) is more accurate and pleasant to use for most things.
>
>
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