At 09:53 AM 8/4/2011, Rugxulo wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Ralf A. Quint <[email protected]> wrote:
> > At 10:20 PM 8/3/2011, Rugxulo wrote:
> >>In my defense, I maybe? should've just taken the easy way out and used
> >>DJGPP (which is 20+ years old, and that's as DOS as it gets, almost
> >>...). But I didn't see a huge need or advantage.
> >
> > Never really was "DOS", always an attempt to prevent those Unix geeks
> > to have to adjust to DOS.
>
>Well, it's as "DOS" as you can get with a 32-bit DOS extender and 
>POSIX support.

P.O.S.IX >:-} , that's your problem right there, the very basic 
explanation why it isn't DOS... ;-)

>I'm not sure I agree. There's just too much crappy C code out there.
>Worse is that most people force POSIX and fragile / confusing
>AutoTools on everything. And when code assumes certain-sized ints,
>GCC, etc. etc., you'd almost be better writing your own from scratch.
>(If your "configure" is bigger than your total source code size,
>you've done something wrong!!)

See the previous paragraph... ;-)

>Yes, but "most" (??) people won't complain if you personally don't
>support MBF, at least not initially. BTW, I guess you've seen this:
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/35826

Well, yes and no. It's just another explanation for the loss in 
precision between MBF and IEEE754

>My first PC was a 486 Sx.   ;-)

PC? Well, my first own computer was a KIM-1 >:-}

> > IEEE-754 compatible FPU are part of every Intel CPU since the 486,
>
>Correction, 586.   ;-)

Sorry, but I am right here. The i486 was the first Intel CPU to 
include the FPU, well before the Intel Pentium...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80486#Differences_between_i386_and_i486

The i486SX was a stripped down version of the "standard" i48DX without the FPU.

> > I had a look at it a short while ago and it absolutely isn't. It is
> > it's own beast all around. QB64 however seemed to be pretty close,
> > more impressive though if you check out the Mac OS X version for it... ;-)
>
>Haven't tried it, but it's "huge" (or so I hear).

13.6MB for the OS-X version. 21.5B for Win32 and 9.4MB for the Linux 
version isn't "huge" compared to a lot of other development environments...

Ralf 


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