On 10/20/26 09:50, Mark Millard wrote: > Is the following expected? > > Doing a command like (as root): > > # rsync -x -r --delete --file-flags --force-change -aAHhh \ > --info=progress2 / /mnt/ > > produces a couple of notices: > > 41.41G 59% 59.70MB/s 0:11:50 (xfr#242446, > ir-chk=3799/633259)rsync: [generator] failed to set times on > "/mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-aarch64/var/empty": Operation > not permitted (1) > 41.86G 59% 57.69MB/s 0:12:23 (xfr#258237, > ir-chk=1000/662347)rsync: [generator] failed to set times on > "/mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-armv7/var/empty": Operation > not permitted (1) > > / and /mnt/ are both UFS. > > Looks like it is Access and/or Birth that are not updated. Modify looks > to be updated. Change look to track the live update time, not a time > from the original file system. > > # stat -f "File: %N%nAccess: %Sa%nModify: %Sm%nChange: %Sc%nBirth: > %SB%n" /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-a*/var/empty > /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-a*/var/empty > File: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-aarch64/var/empty > Access: Oct 19 18:25:46 2026 > Modify: Oct 17 10:09:38 2026 > Change: Oct 19 18:26:01 2026 > Birth: Oct 17 10:09:38 2026 > File: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-armv7/var/empty > Access: Oct 19 18:29:06 2026 > Modify: Oct 17 09:32:30 2026 > Change: Oct 19 18:29:21 2026 > Birth: Oct 17 09:32:30 2026 > File: /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-aarch64/var/empty > Access: Dec 21 20:23:59 2025 > Modify: Oct 17 10:09:38 2026 > Change: Oct 20 09:08:20 2026 > Birth: Dec 7 12:41:38 2025 > File: /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-armv7/var/empty > Access: Apr 16 09:52:06 2026 > Modify: Oct 17 09:32:30 2026 > Change: Oct 20 09:08:52 2026 > Birth: Apr 14 11:09:35 2026 > > # ls -lodT /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-a*/var/empty > /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-a*/var/empty > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 10:09:38 2026 > /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-aarch64/var/empty > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 09:32:30 2026 > /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-armv7/var/empty > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 10:09:38 2026 > /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-aarch64/var/empty > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 09:32:30 2026 > /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-armv7/var/empty > > > For reference: > > # ~/fbsd-based-on-what-commit.sh -C /usr/ports/ > fe5b4a79cbd0 (HEAD -> main, freebsd/main, freebsd/HEAD) net/rtptools: > update WWW > Author: Stefan Eßer <[email protected]> > Commit: Stefan Eßer <[email protected]> > CommitDate: 2026-10-18 14:45:38 +0000 > branch: main > merge-base: fe5b4a79cbd0f401ddf9506e8195debb3c110b43 > merge-base: CommitDate: 2026-10-18 14:45:38 +0000 > n771835 (--first-parent --count for merge-base) > > # uname -apKU > FreeBSD aarch64-main-pbase 16.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 16.0-CURRENT > main-n290240-4488a4f0486c GENERIC-NODEBUG arm64 aarch64 1600028 1600028 > >
Now that the rsync completed: part of the oddity here is that there are a lot of other examples that get no messages. Below lists examples (including the 2 above): # ls -lodT /usr/local/poudriere/jails/*/var/empty /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/*/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 22:12:37 2025 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 22:12:37 2025 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Mar 22 10:32:41 2026 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Mar 22 10:32:41 2026 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 10:09:38 2026 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 09:32:30 2026 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Jun 11 17:37:58 2026 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/release-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Jun 11 17:37:58 2026 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/release-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Mar 6 01:58:39 2026 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/release14-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 May 19 19:17:57 2026 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/release14-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Jun 6 00:31:44 2025 /mnt/usr/local/poudriere/jails/release14p3-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 22:12:37 2025 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 22:12:37 2025 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Mar 22 10:32:41 2026 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Mar 22 10:32:41 2026 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 10:09:38 2026 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Oct 17 09:32:30 2026 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/official14-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Jun 11 17:37:58 2026 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/release-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Jun 11 17:37:58 2026 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/release-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Mar 6 01:58:39 2026 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/release14-aarch64/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 May 19 19:17:57 2026 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/release14-armv7/var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Jun 6 00:31:44 2025 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/release14p3-aarch64/var/empty Out of those only the 2 indicated reported any messages. -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com
