At 6:45 PM -0500 2002/11/21, Robert Watson wrote:

 I appreciate the effort, and am interested in the idea, but in this case
 it was as much a solicitation for a developer as for the testing
 environment itself.  This won't just be "testing" of netncp and nwfs, this
 will probably require a developer to have local access to a netware
 configuration that they can do nasty things to in order to exercise the
 code properly.  Unfortunately, those seem to be in short supply.
I understand. My understanding is that part of the job of this team is to find people that have various different types of environments that could be used for testing like this, and put them together with the necessary development personnel.

 If I might suggest: there's a freebsd-qa mailing list.  It's a great place
 to organize QA efforts, whereas freebsd-chat is notorious for its lack of
 signal (it's where dead signals go to rot).
There's been some talk of freebsd-qa, but so far the only thing I recall being said is that the sort of thing we're talking about doing is not what this list has been used for in the past. We were kind of wondering where we could take this particular effort, and if we could commandeer the freebsd-qa list for this purpose.

                If you moving the conversation there and get a bunch of
 people subscribed and interested, they'll be able to look there for the
 stream of bug fixes associated with the install process, and get easy
 access to the testing guide as it evolves, since we usually pass drafts
 through there, etc.
We will be moving the conversation to somewhere more appropriate, but I don't know when or where.

I believe that our biggest problem at the moment is finding the necessary development types to help us debug the problems and get them sorted out -- we've got people who have hardware, and would be more than willing to help test things out, but in the past they haven't gotten much help from the developers.

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