At 8:35 AM -0800 3/17/02, David O'Brien wrote: >My earlier concerns about the use of Perforce were when a developers >expected other developers to use Perforce for _shared_ development. >Or that tried to claim that their code was "published" if it was >in the Perforce depot on Freefall.
Exactly my concerns, too. >In this use of Perforce for a -CURRENT snapshot; I don't see how >people can bitch and bitch about it. No committer or developer >has EVER had CVS "access" or "sight" of the source used in previous >snapshot CDROMs. So people are loosing nothing. Perforce is just >a tool to assist Murray and Co. in making this snapshot CD. I agree completely. I have no concerns about them using perforce in this manner. Whatever makes their lives easier in getting out this "developer's preview" is fine by me. >The other reason to NOT do this in the CVS repository is that it >will help deemphasize that the DP is NOT a RELEASE. People should >not be CVSup'ing hoping to get just that point in time, To speak about my own bias on this process, I agree completely with this sentiment. Four weeks from now, no one should care about the particular second in time they used to create this rough snapshot. I see this as more of a dry run for the *process* of creating a release of 5.0. It will give us a convenient bootstrap CD for those who want to try out 5.0, and who also want a bootable CD to do a clean install of "something in 5.0", because they want to "play with it a little". Anyone who thinks they are going to start tracking current had better *track* current, and not depend on this particular CD. It is not a "release". That describes my opinion on what I expect from this developer's preview. I admit that I am not comfortable with using perforce (or subversion, or <etc>) in some other situations, but I think it is perfectly reasonable in this situation. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message