In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Wemm writes: : Personally, I think we place far too much weight on the major number thing. : I think we should be allowed to bump it when the alternative is 'major pain' : to developers. The more I think about this, the more that I think that you are right. I'd go farther and also say that we won't produce a libcompat/libc.so.5.uu or any other "current only" libc versions. : I also object to hacking around like this. I would far prefer that we fix : it properly. We *need* to be able to innovate, especially with locking in : libc in 5.x. I suspect we will have major events like this several more : times before 5.0-R when we add in hooks for KSE or rfork threading. And that's the argument that tipped me over from hacking around it... : http://people.freebsd.org/~peter/stdio.diff3 That looks good. I especially like the coupling of the std* changes to the new major version. I've killed my other build and will try to build this one. : Lets commit that and get on with life. Existing binaries will just keep : on running. : : And if we dont ship libc.so.5, in 5.0-R, then *so what*? I'd like to see a bias against major bumps remain in place, but I think that this change requires one. That is, we still don't generally bump major verions, but are allowed to when the pain is major. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message