-audit trimmed, cc'ed to -i18n On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 10:02:01PM +0300, Андрей Чернов scribbled: | On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 12:48:12 -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote: | > On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 08:32:26PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev scribbled: | > | "Michael C . Wu" wrote: | > | > On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 05:57:19PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev scribbled: | > | > | Motomichi Matsuzaki wrote: | > | > I think that making this "hack" a russian/xxxfs port and I think | > | > everyone can be happy. If you want unicode FS like this, perhaps you | > | > can have a sysutils/unicodefs. :) | > | > | No, it's no way a ports- commit. | | I agree. I disagree. | > Thank you for the one sentence reply without giving any reasons. | > As a community, I thought we are supposed to communicate. | > I have expressed my reasons and ideas, and you return the favor | > with an one line comment. :) | | This is general method of telling kernel how to convert names from Unicode | to any local charset, not particulary to Russian one. Anybody feel free to | add their own single bytes charsets tables. READ: "single byte" You are breaking CJK multibyte support. Why? Why do you want make software engineering mistakes? | Yes, it is a per-FS hack, but until iconv or something like will be | integrated, some hack needed just to read CDs selling at nearby shop. | | > keichii@recursive:/usr/ports$ ls japanese/msdosfs/ | | Japanese etc. is _very_ different and needs tons of efforts even when | implemented like similar hack, we currently talk about and limited to | single bytes charsets only. Why should you ignore the multibyte stuff because it is harder? SMPng is hard, but no one is ignoring SMP because SMP is hard to implement. Since device drivers for cheap hardware is hard to write/fix, should we also ignore those? Your logic fails to evaluate to TRUE. | We have almost full single bytes charset localization in the | kernel/userland, so this step is next logical extention in that direction. | I can't say something like about double bytes charsets like Japanese etc. Right, and as much as you want single byte stuff to work, CJK is also a large market for FreeBSD. Where else in the world is there a full- fledged print monthly 200page magazine for BSD but Japan? (Sorry, but DaemonNews is not 200 pages :) The proposal breaks multibyte support and I do not believe it is acceptable to do this. You want Russian to work, and us CJK people want CJK to work. If you were looking at this from my point of view, would you say yes? Probably not. The frustration with C charset is enough, can we please not make the mistake that PDP-based BSD's made long ago? -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
