> > > 
> >     do any apps check for FTP_ACTIVE_MODE?
> >     are we going to apply patches to each app to check for this
> >     and maintains those patches over the course of time?
> > 
> >     seems to be a change without commensurate benefit.....it will
> >     confuse some, suprise others and doesnt seem to offer
> >     substantial benefit.
> 
> It has the (large!) benefit of NATed[1] and firewalled users getting a
> working setup at once.  I'm in favour.

        changing the default to FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES would accomplish
the same thing, no?   i agree that this is good.  i disgree about
changin the name of the knob to FTP_ACTIVE_MODE.

jmb

> 
> [1] Those using natd/ppp -alias will get this already, due to a
> protocol translator in libalias.  Alas, this does not combine with
> firewalls on the NAT machine unless somebody choose to activate the
> code I added to libalias to punch 'holes' in ipfw.
> 
> Eivind.
> 


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