Thanks for this Pip. When I was Executive Director for Canyon part of my function was to visit YouTube and others and asked them to take down films from their site that work that Canyon distributes.
I once found one of my films on YouTube with a soundtrack by some German band. I asked YouTube to remove it and I check occasionally to see if any of my own work is there. Thanks Lorie Baillie sent me a photo of Bruce at the mortuary. She had decided to bury him and Bruce finally looked very much at peace. Dominic On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:06 PM FrameWorks Admin <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Jaime, > > I am interested in copyright law and recently took a course about it. > Regarding online copyright infringement of experimental filmmakers, I can > offer this message from Jonas Mekas to Kenneth Goldsmith, the founder of > Ubuweb, who has been very gracious in removing films when asked by > filmmakers or their families: > > February 27, 2010 > Ken, > It has come to my attention that you have placed on your website > severalthanks of my films, including THE BRIG, ZEFIRO TORNA, LAST THREE > DAYS OF ALLEN. You have done this without asking my permission, wich I > consider irrespectful of me as a person and as author of the works you have > placed on your website. I have no income, I am trying to survive, and any > income that I can get from my work is VITAL to my existence and cotinuation > of my work. I think your website is very valuable for classics of the > past, works of deceased film-makers, etc, but I am alive and working, and > all those works that you have appropriated are available to purchase > through either myself or Re:Voir or Anthology. > So I would appreciate very much if you'd remove all my works from your > website. > Thank you, > Jonas Mekas > > Regarding classics of the past and works of deceased filmmakers, copyright > law gives families and estates ownership and rights for a determined length > of time. > This link gives detailed information about how much time: > https://www.whoishostingthis.com/resources/copyright-guide/#copyright-length > All work in a fixed or recorded form is automatically protected by > copyright since the Berne convention of 1988. > Even transfers of copyright revert back to the author after 35 years, to > protect authors who bargained away their rights. > > Re:Voir actively removes from YouTube any films for which we have a > contract with the filmmaker or their family and to whom we pay royalties > for home video sales. > In addition we have actively fought to pursue copyright protection in the > case of perceived infringement, for example for Isidore Isou’s daughter > Catherine Goldstein or for Maya Deren’s heir Tavia Ito. > Many estates are struggling to preserve and archive the work or in some > cases to support family members. Therefore I think it is justified to pay > them royalties that are due. > Also the filmmakers, families or the distributor have invested heavily to > make high quality transfers, and they are justified in recovering their > expenses. > It is the mission of coops and archives and distributors like Re:Voir to > make these films available, and these are not rich institutions but > struggling organizations whose members are mostly underpaid and overworked. > The families are certainly not rich. Therefore we support legal streaming > and download and make the effort to remove unauthorized copies. > > I hope this helps! > Pip Chodorov > > > > > > On Apr 19, 2020, at 2:23 AM, jaime cleeland <[email protected]> wrote: > > It further promoted a discussion with the Australian filmmaker Peter > Tammer. Who then emailed me this. Please read below and feel free > to add your opinions. > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Peter Tammer* <[email protected]> > > > Now here's my argument: one reason these films are being withdrawn from > YouTube and other sources is that the estates of the artists are claiming > them as "property", the same way paintings and sculptures gain value in > monetary terms, whereas novels by great writers of the past and music > compositions by the great composers, are free to everyone, except where > performance, recordings and recording rights come into play. In the case of > classical music, novels, poetry, etc... these great works are not denied to > lovers of the arts. > > But in the visual art world, only the rich, or richly endowed museums, can > hoard the work and deny access to the greater part of humanity. Including > us who value the work for its own intrinsic value and not as property to be > bought and sold. > > PT > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >
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