*Chuck Workman's Visionaries (2010) is a feature-length documentary about American avant-garde film, using Jonas Mekas as nodal point.*
*There is also Workman's What Is Cinema? (2013), which--as I remember--includes "avant-garde" filmmaking within a larger context.* *Workman <[email protected] <[email protected]>>* On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Warren Cockerham <[email protected] > wrote: > There's also Knox Harrington - a video artist. > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:56 AM, James Hansen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Michael Almereyda's Hamlet turns the title character into an experimental >> film/video artist. Worth a look. >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 7:00 AM, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Albert Alcoz) >>> 2. EDGE OF FRAME WEEKEND 2018 (Edwin Rostron) >>> 3. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Pablo Marin) >>> 4. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Pablo Marin) >>> 5. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Scott Dorsey) >>> 6. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Francisco Torres) >>> 7. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Esperanza Collado) >>> 8. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (David Kidman) >>> 9. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Christopher Ball) >>> 10. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Pip Chodorov) >>> 11. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Elena Duque) >>> 12. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (David Kidman) >>> 13. Re: Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema >>> (Cari Machet) >>> 14. Sources for digital "prints" of avant garde classics (Elena Duque) >>> 15. Re: Sources for digital "prints" of avant garde classics >>> (Pip Chodorov) >>> 16. Re: Sources for digital "prints" of avant garde classics >>> (Elena Duque) >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Albert Alcoz <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:01:55 +0100 >>> Subject: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> Hello, >>> >>> Do you recall any fiction feature length film that is a sort of tribute >>> to Avant-Garde or experimental film? >>> >>> The other day, watching the film *Arrebato* (1980) by Iván Zulueta for >>> ten times I was wondering about feature lengths films (on 35 mm or digital >>> video) where one of the main topic is the practice of Avant-Garde film. We >>> could say this Spanish film is a homage to experimental super 8 film. The >>> main character does horror films and the other is learning how to use the >>> "pause" and the interval timer with his Canon 1014. >>> >>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078797/ >>> >>> I don't know if there are some other fiction films that could be >>> understood under this idea. >>> >>> Maybe *Dreams that Money Can't Buy *(1947)? >>> >>> Do you have some other titles in mind? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Albert >>> -- >>> http://visionaryfilm.net/ <http://www.visionaryfilm.net/> >>> http://albertalcoz.com/ <http://www.albertalcoz.com/> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Edwin Rostron <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 12:33:21 +0000 >>> Subject: [Frameworks] EDGE OF FRAME WEEKEND 2018 >>> *EDGE OF FRAME WEEKEND 2018 * >>> >>> *2-4 MARCH 2018, LONDON UK* >>> >>> *BFI SOUTHBANK, BARBICAN + CLOSE-UP* >>> >>> >>> Edge of Frame presents a weekend of experimental and independent >>> animation, screening over 60 works, with many of the artists in attendance. >>> >>> >>> The Edge of Frame Weekend 2018 is a unique three-day celebration of >>> experimental animation, featuring innovative, visionary and risk-taking >>> work in a packed programme of screenings and discussion, with premieres of >>> brand new films showing alongside classics of animated art. >>> >>> >>> Following the success of the first Edge of Frame Weekend in 2016, the >>> 2018 edition features six new screening programmes, at BFI Southbank, >>> Barbican and Close-Up, including a retrospective of guest artist Peter >>> Burr, guest-curated programmes from Herb Shellenberger and Alexander >>> Stewart, plus an afternoon of talks illuminating the processes, histories >>> and context of experimental animation. Leading contemporary animators will >>> present new and recent works, including Peter Millard, Natalia Stuyk, >>> Jonathan Hodgson, Steve Reinke, Julian Gallese and Vicky Smith. Guest >>> Curators Herb Shellenberger and Alexander Stewart have programmed >>> screenings especially for the Weekend, exploring ‘The Animated Body’ and >>> the highly original and influential experimental animation output of >>> California Institute of the Arts. The Weekend begins with an afternoon of >>> talks from a selection of leading artists, critics, academics and curators. >>> >>> >>> “*Delving into the many offerings of Edge of Frame demonstrates the >>> rewards of taking a chance, of welcoming strange ideas and experiencing new >>> things.*” - Little White Lies >>> >>> >>> The Edge of Frame Weekend 2018 is curated by Edwin Rostron, and is >>> supported by Jerwood Charitable Foundation, Royal College of Art, and using >>> public funding by the National Lottery through Arts Council England. >>> >>> >>> Full programme information can be found here: >>> www.edgeofframe.co.uk/edge-of-frame-weekend-2018 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Pablo Marin <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>, >>> Albert Alcoz <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:07:53 +0000 (UTC) >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> Hi Albert, >>> >>> >>> Mmm... David Holzman's Diary? >>> >>> Maybe some Godard would fit as well... >>> >>> Best! >>> Pablo. >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>> >>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 9:02, Albert Alcoz >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Do you recall any fiction feature length film that is a sort of tribute >>> to Avant-Garde or experimental film? >>> >>> The other day, watching the film *Arrebato* (1980) by Iván Zulueta for >>> ten times I was wondering about feature lengths films (on 35 mm or digital >>> video) where one of the main topic is the practice of Avant-Garde film. We >>> could say this Spanish film is a homage to experimental super 8 film. The >>> main character does horror films and the other is learning how to use the >>> "pause" and the interval timer with his Canon 1014. >>> >>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078797/ >>> >>> I don't know if there are some other fiction films that could be >>> understood under this idea. >>> >>> Maybe *Dreams that Money Can't Buy *(1947)? >>> >>> Do you have some other titles in mind? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Albert >>> -- >>> http://visionaryfilm.net/ <http://www.visionaryfilm.net/> >>> http://albertalcoz.com/ <http://www.albertalcoz.com/> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Pablo Marin <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>, >>> Albert Alcoz <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:07:53 +0000 (UTC) >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> Hi Albert, >>> >>> >>> Mmm... David Holzman's Diary? >>> >>> Maybe some Godard would fit as well... >>> >>> Best! >>> Pablo. >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>> >>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 9:02, Albert Alcoz >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Do you recall any fiction feature length film that is a sort of tribute >>> to Avant-Garde or experimental film? >>> >>> The other day, watching the film *Arrebato* (1980) by Iván Zulueta for >>> ten times I was wondering about feature lengths films (on 35 mm or digital >>> video) where one of the main topic is the practice of Avant-Garde film. We >>> could say this Spanish film is a homage to experimental super 8 film. The >>> main character does horror films and the other is learning how to use the >>> "pause" and the interval timer with his Canon 1014. >>> >>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078797/ >>> >>> I don't know if there are some other fiction films that could be >>> understood under this idea. >>> >>> Maybe *Dreams that Money Can't Buy *(1947)? >>> >>> Do you have some other titles in mind? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Albert >>> -- >>> http://visionaryfilm.net/ <http://www.visionaryfilm.net/> >>> http://albertalcoz.com/ <http://www.albertalcoz.com/> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Scott Dorsey <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected], [email protected] >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:22:32 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts. >>> --scott >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Francisco Torres <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 12:36:47 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> After the Fox 1966 >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI >>> >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avast.com >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>> <#m_-250770915519682505_m_-6344328656977651671_m_-4900773302067182882_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>> 2018-02-14 11:22 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts. >>>> --scott >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Esperanza Collado <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 20:09:32 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be >>> understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an >>> inverted way. >>> >>> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> After the Fox 1966 >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>>> Virus-free. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>>> <#m_-250770915519682505_m_-6344328656977651671_m_-517154522408719428_m_-5538893534397020501_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>> 2018-02-14 11:22 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts. >>>>> --scott >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Esperanza Collado >>> >>> >>> >>> www.esperanzacollado.net >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Kidman <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:36:05 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon? >>> D >>> >>> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be >>> understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an >>> inverted way. >>> >>> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> After the Fox 1966 >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>>> Virus-free. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>>> <#m_-250770915519682505_m_-6344328656977651671_m_5894967899793976723_m_-5538893534397020501_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>> 2018-02-14 11:22 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts. >>>>> --scott >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Esperanza Collado >>> >>> >>> >>> www.esperanzacollado.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Christopher Ball <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 20:20:45 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> I always thought that the first few minutes of Lost Highway was a >>> tribute to Meshes of the Afternoon >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:36 PM, David Kidman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon? >>>> D >>>> >>>> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be >>>> understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an >>>> inverted way. >>>> >>>> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> After the Fox 1966 >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>>>> Virus-free. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>>>> <#m_-250770915519682505_m_-6344328656977651671_m_-1142427959457747747_m_-1565755734410787956_m_-5538893534397020501_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>> >>>>> 2018-02-14 11:22 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts. >>>>>> --scott >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Esperanza Collado >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> www.esperanzacollado.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Pip Chodorov <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:40:50 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> No that was Lost Highway >>> P >>> >>> >>> At 22:36 +0100 14/02/18, David Kidman wrote: >>> >>>> Isn¹t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon? >>>> D >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Elena Duque <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:50:58 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> Man with a Movie Camera, by Dziga Vertov? >>> >>> El 14 feb. 2018 22:36, "David Kidman" <[email protected]> escribió: >>> >>>> Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon? >>>> D >>>> >>>> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be >>>> understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an >>>> inverted way. >>>> >>>> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> After the Fox 1966 >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>>>> Virus-free. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>>>> <#m_-250770915519682505_m_-6344328656977651671_m_5827360382058120236_m_-8519533045866090684_m_-5538893534397020501_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>> >>>>> 2018-02-14 11:22 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts. >>>>>> --scott >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Esperanza Collado >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> www.esperanzacollado.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Kidman <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 05:20:26 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> I hesitated to put them both forward, but definitely both. >>> There is also 12 monkeys as a fully paid-up La Jetée remake. >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> On 15 Feb 2018, at 02:20, Christopher Ball <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I always thought that the first few minutes of Lost Highway was a >>> tribute to Meshes of the Afternoon >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:36 PM, David Kidman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon? >>>> D >>>> >>>> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be >>>> understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an >>>> inverted way. >>>> >>>> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> After the Fox 1966 >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>>>> Virus-free. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>>>> <#m_-250770915519682505_m_-6344328656977651671_m_-8261593820970771445_m_-1565755734410787956_m_-5538893534397020501_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>> >>>>> 2018-02-14 11:22 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts. >>>>>> --scott >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Esperanza Collado >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> www.esperanzacollado.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Cari Machet <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 03:08:30 +0300 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde >>> cinema >>> american beauty >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 12:36 AM, David Kidman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon? >>>> D >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be >>>> understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an >>>> inverted way. >>>> >>>> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> After the Fox 1966 >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>>>> Virus-free. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>>>> <#m_-250770915519682505_m_-6344328656977651671_m_5014463858626612486_m_-8272286775255177780_m_-5538893534397020501_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>> >>>>> 2018-02-14 11:22 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts. >>>>>> --scott >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Esperanza Collado >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> www.esperanzacollado.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> <https://about.me/carimachet?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb> >>> cari machet >>> about.me/carimachet >>> <https://about.me/carimachet?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Elena Duque <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:28:25 +0100 >>> Subject: [Frameworks] Sources for digital "prints" of avant garde >>> classics >>> Dear Frameworkers >>> >>> I am trying to put together a couple of programs as a sort of >>> introduction to experimental cinema for the audience of a small festival in >>> a small town. They don't have the possibility to project in 16mm or 35mm >>> (not this year at least), so I need to find digital files available to rent >>> and screen. I have been browsing through the catalogues of all the >>> cooperatives and distributors I could think of, but I am still missing some >>> things I consider important. For instance, Stan Brakhage and Marie Menken. >>> Do you know of any source, cooperative, distributor or individual, where I >>> can find digital "prints" to rent? >>> >>> Thank you very much in advance! >>> >>> -- >>> Elena Duque Viña >>> Telf: (+34) 605431072 <+34%20605%2043%2010%2072> >>> http://cargocollective.com/elenaduque <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Pip Chodorov <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:39:42 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Sources for digital "prints" of avant garde >>> classics >>> Dear Elena, >>> >>> Many filmmakers don't want their films shown digitally. A good example >>> is Stan Brakhage. It really denatures the intended image. Other filmmakers >>> are more tolerant, such as Jonas Mekas. It is a big debate. >>> >>> At Re:Voir in Paris we have digital files for our VOD platform and >>> DVD/Blu-Ray publishing but these are meant only for home video, and though >>> we do get requests for screenings we always encourage programmers to screen >>> film prints from the coops. A 16mm projector is really quite affordable. >>> But if the programmers insist and if the filmmakers agree, we can rent >>> files. >>> >>> In any case it is important to write in your screening programs and to >>> tell the audience that you are showing electronic reproductions. Just as if >>> you go to a museum you expect to see original paintings, not photocopies, >>> so reproductions would be indicated on the title card. It is important to >>> educate your audience and show them films on film! >>> >>> Pip Chodorov >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 12:28 +0100 15/02/18, Elena Duque wrote: >>> >>>> I am trying to put together a couple of programs as a sort of >>>> introduction to experimental cinema for the audience of a small festival in >>>> a small town. They don't have the possibility to project in 16mm or 35mm >>>> (not this year at least), so I need to find digital files available to rent >>>> and screen. I have been browsing through the catalogues of all the >>>> cooperatives and distributors I could think of, but I am still missing some >>>> things I consider important. For instance, Stan Brakhage and Marie Menken. >>>> Do you know of any source, cooperative, distributor or individual, where I >>>> can find digital "prints" to rent? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Elena Duque <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:53:03 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Sources for digital "prints" of avant garde >>> classics >>> Thanks, Pip >>> >>> I totally understand that, and I work for a festival that is very aware >>> of that ((S8) Mostra de Cinema Periférico in A Coruña). Ideally, I would >>> suggest them to project in 16mm, but this is a test screening in a small >>> Spanish town, happening in a month and a half thanks to a venue they just >>> got recently. So, there is no time and no money for this edition (besides >>> of getting a projector, it would be necessary to hire a projectionist and >>> pay for the shipping of the prints), but hopefully we will be able to that >>> properly next year. So, I'm trying to do my best with what's available, in >>> a place with no avant garde screenings tradition whatsoever. It is >>> important to be aware of the context, and as much as I think that the >>> analog screening is a totally different experience, I think this is better >>> than nothing. We go little by little, trying to create a new audience that >>> does not exist now! >>> >>> Given that, thank you very much for your suggestion! I will look through >>> your catalogue and maybe I will make you some enquiries, trying to be >>> respectful to all the filmmakers involved. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> 2018-02-15 12:39 GMT+01:00 Pip Chodorov <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Dear Elena, >>>> >>>> Many filmmakers don't want their films shown digitally. A good example >>>> is Stan Brakhage. It really denatures the intended image. Other filmmakers >>>> are more tolerant, such as Jonas Mekas. It is a big debate. >>>> >>>> At Re:Voir in Paris we have digital files for our VOD platform and >>>> DVD/Blu-Ray publishing but these are meant only for home video, and though >>>> we do get requests for screenings we always encourage programmers to screen >>>> film prints from the coops. A 16mm projector is really quite affordable. >>>> But if the programmers insist and if the filmmakers agree, we can rent >>>> files. >>>> >>>> In any case it is important to write in your screening programs and to >>>> tell the audience that you are showing electronic reproductions. Just as if >>>> you go to a museum you expect to see original paintings, not photocopies, >>>> so reproductions would be indicated on the title card. It is important to >>>> educate your audience and show them films on film! >>>> >>>> Pip Chodorov >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At 12:28 +0100 15/02/18, Elena Duque wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am trying to put together a couple of programs as a sort of >>>>> introduction to experimental cinema for the audience of a small festival >>>>> in >>>>> a small town. They don't have the possibility to project in 16mm or 35mm >>>>> (not this year at least), so I need to find digital files available to >>>>> rent >>>>> and screen. I have been browsing through the catalogues of all the >>>>> cooperatives and distributors I could think of, but I am still missing >>>>> some >>>>> things I consider important. For instance, Stan Brakhage and Marie Menken. >>>>> Do you know of any source, cooperative, distributor or individual, where I >>>>> can find digital "prints" to rent? >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Elena Duque Viña >>> Telf: (+34) 605431072 <+34%20605%2043%2010%2072> >>> http://cargocollective.com/elenaduque <[email protected]> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> James Hansen >> Visiting Assistant Professor >> Modern and Contemporary Art >> Department of Art >> Oberlin College >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >
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