On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:21:34 +0800 P Purkayastha <[email protected]> said:

ok - well then that sounds good to me :) does e stay running for a long time if
u never bring up the dbus daemon again (for hours/days?)

> That is exactly what I said. dbus-daemon is started during login. But later
> it exits or crashes for what reason I don't know (usually takes a day or two
> for it to exit/crash). But e is running later on. Then, kde programs stop
> working, but e still keeps on running (at least for me). :)
> 
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:20:25 +0800 P Purkayastha <[email protected]> said:
> >
> > :)
> >
> > well i was more getting to e crashing BECAUSE dbus dameon crashed (ie while
> > e
> > is up - dbus daemon goes down). e should start just fine without a dbus
> > daemon
> > (you may lose a few features). it should also not crash just because dbus
> > did.
> >
> > > Sorry, forgot to forward to list.
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: P Purkayastha <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [e-users] Auto-Logoff???
> > > To: Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:43:56 +0800 P Purkayastha <[email protected]>
> > said:
> > > >
> > > > > One common thing that might link all of the following symptoms is if
> > the
> > > > > dbus session actually crashed or exited. Then no kde program will be
> > able
> > > > to
> > > > > open. skype and java apps are not using dbus. e does use dbus. I am
> > not
> > > > sure
> > > > > if google-chrome also uses dbus.
> > > >
> > > > hmm if a dbus daemon crash takes e down... this needs fixing :) but
> > need to
> > > > narrow down the issue first.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have faced some situation where kde apps (for ex. okular) would not
> > start.
> > > All of those were cases where it could not reach the dbus daemon (i.e.
> > teh
> > > daemon had quit). However, I have never had e crash because it could not
> > > access dbus.
> > >
> > > I think this can happen based on what login manager you use. Earlier,
> > when I
> > > used kdm, I never had dbus quit on me. I have faced this problem with
> > elsa
> > > and, nowadays, with lxdm. Something is not right about the way these
> > login
> > > managers start the desktop session.
> > >
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