That is exactly what I said. dbus-daemon is started during login. But later
it exits or crashes for what reason I don't know (usually takes a day or two
for it to exit/crash). But e is running later on. Then, kde programs stop
working, but e still keeps on running (at least for me). :)

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:20:25 +0800 P Purkayastha <[email protected]> said:
>
> :)
>
> well i was more getting to e crashing BECAUSE dbus dameon crashed (ie while
> e
> is up - dbus daemon goes down). e should start just fine without a dbus
> daemon
> (you may lose a few features). it should also not crash just because dbus
> did.
>
> > Sorry, forgot to forward to list.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: P Purkayastha <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [e-users] Auto-Logoff???
> > To: Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:43:56 +0800 P Purkayastha <[email protected]>
> said:
> > >
> > > > One common thing that might link all of the following symptoms is if
> the
> > > > dbus session actually crashed or exited. Then no kde program will be
> able
> > > to
> > > > open. skype and java apps are not using dbus. e does use dbus. I am
> not
> > > sure
> > > > if google-chrome also uses dbus.
> > >
> > > hmm if a dbus daemon crash takes e down... this needs fixing :) but
> need to
> > > narrow down the issue first.
> > >
> >
> > I have faced some situation where kde apps (for ex. okular) would not
> start.
> > All of those were cases where it could not reach the dbus daemon (i.e.
> teh
> > daemon had quit). However, I have never had e crash because it could not
> > access dbus.
> >
> > I think this can happen based on what login manager you use. Earlier,
> when I
> > used kdm, I never had dbus quit on me. I have faced this problem with
> elsa
> > and, nowadays, with lxdm. Something is not right about the way these
> login
> > managers start the desktop session.
> >
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