On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:42:48 -0300 Wido <[email protected]> said:

not sure then - something in ecomorph? comp module should work (without gl)
everywhere. with gl mileage may vary. nvidia drivers work a charm as do other
fully baked drviers. fglrx is not fully baked. radeon open drivers definitely
seem not to be from what i have experienced. nouveau i believe are not (no
complete GLSL support). intel drivers i hear are ok - but speed is always an
issue. sgx drivers if given the attention needed will work. tegra2 drivers seem
fully baked. unknown about the rest.

> heheheh, sorry, my bad: "With comp enabled" == having the composite options
> enabled in ecomorph.  And the problem I have is when I attach a second
> monitor, the virtual desktops stop working properly.
> 
> But I only ment to give some feedback on how Intel graphics works: They do
> 
> 2010/10/25 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> 
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:58:56 -0300 Wido <[email protected]> said:
> >
> > > I'm using a thinkpad t61 with an intel gpu (which I think is an Intel GMA
> > > X3100). I'm using the latest package for debian in the E original site
> > and
> > > the ecomorph plugin (with comp enabled).
> > > Al the 3d works great, except when using multiple displays (whitout the
> > > ecomorph, multihead work like a charm)
> >
> > ecomorph *IS* compiz. i can't help you there. you can't sanely use ecomorph
> > AND
> > comp module. they conflict. both are compositors. comp will work in
> > "twinview"
> > or "mergedfb" - it wont work for multihead (:0.0 & :0.1 etc. displays -
> > i.e. 2
> > root windows).
> >
> > > I don't have the same bug you do, but I hope my setup helps you determine
> > > what is going on in you setup
> >
> >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > 2010/10/23 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 13:28:54 +0800 waterloo <[email protected]>
> > said:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > there u go. open source driver problem - as best i know. evas gl enigne
> > > > requires full shader support (GLSL - opengl2.0). as best i know the
> > open
> > > > drivers dont support that - well thats the only explanation for them
> > not
> > > > working that i can think of. evas' gl engine and even compositor works
> > like
> > > > a
> > > > charm on FULL featured drivers (which interestingly mostly happen to
> > all be
> > > > closed drivers :)). this INCLUDES opengl-es2.0 embedded gpu's (i have
> > seen
> > > > it
> > > > all work on s5pc110, s3c6410, omap3430/3530, nvidia tegra2 - all of
> > which
> > > > came
> > > > with properly fixed up (yet closed) drivers). works on my desktop
> > machines
> > > > (nvidia based with nvidia closed drivers which i'd consider pretty much
> > the
> > > > gold standard when it comes to well done drivers - not perfect, but
> > much
> > > > better
> > > > than the rest, except possibly the sgx drivers for some of the embedded
> > > > gpu's).
> > > >
> > > > i have no intel based hw that has a gpu capable of glsl shaders, and
> > the
> > > > radeon
> > > > open source driver last i tried barely managed to make my radeon 4650hd
> > > > work on
> > > > my laptop. it was pretty sluggish for basic non-composited 2d, and 3d
> > just
> > > > didnt do anything with evas's gl engine in use.
> > > >
> > > > so i'd say - use fglrx. i just don't trust the open drivers (fglrx has
> > its
> > > > own
> > > > issues though).
> > > >
> > > > > I use composite module.
> > > > >
> > > > > In Composite Settings I choose :
> > > > > Effects: Shadows, Smooth scaling
> > > > > Sync: Sync screen, Sync windows, Loose sync
> > > > > Engine: OpenGL
> > > > > Memory: Send flush, Keep hidden windows, Maximum hidden pixels 32M
> > > > > Timeouts: Min hidden 5 Minutes, Max hidden 10 Hours
> > > > >
> > > > > I can use fglrx driver in E17, but can not use open source driver in
> > E17.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > 2010/10/22 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:56:03 +0800 waterloo <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > said:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > driver bug? using e17 compositor module? what are your settings if
> > you
> > > > use
> > > > > > comp? works fine on my radeon, but texture-from-pixmap doesnt work
> > > > right
> > > > > > (has
> > > > > > sync bugs - a driver issue) and i use fglrx - open source radeon
> > > > drivers
> > > > > > dont
> > > > > > work. as far as i know its all driver bugs/shortcomings.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My computer is Thinkpad W500 , which have two video card: one
> > intel
> > > > > > > integrated card and one ati radeon hd 3650 discreted card.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I install E17 under intel integrated card.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I change to ati card using open source driver , I cannot
> > come
> > > > into
> > > > > > > desktop of E17 , at that time the system is halt and screen is
> > mess
> > > > up .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I using property driver of ATI,  everything is OK.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When changing video card , I change xorg.conf setting and run '
> > > > eselect
> > > > > > > opengl ...' ( I use gentoo ) .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the matter?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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