On 08/28/09 16:09, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:35:22 -0300 Wido <[email protected]> said: > > > kind of. This is for my laptop, so i can't do that (no proxy at home), that > > is why i suggested something more "dynamic" > > this is in general a problem with the environment-variable method. env vars > are > sticky and are inherited from parent processes. chaining it in e will not > change > any apps u ran until they are closed and re-opened to re-inherit the parent > env. this is something that needs to be much more linked to things like > network-manager and network profiels, based on where you connect, either the > network tells you your configuration, does transparent proxies so networks > look > all the same, or your app/daemon that handles network connecting and those > configs/profiles turns such a feature on and off based on the network being > used AND all apps that would use a proxy would dynamically follow such a > change (via dbus maybe?) (ie query dbus for current proxy config then listen > for proxy change singals). > > in general some generic "set up env vars" module would be useful - but not > really for proxy handling as the above wouldnt work there. this is a problem > to be solved some other way. (HTTP_PROXY env var is old and from the days > before machines moved from one network to another - they were attached to one > and fixed) >
I think proxy configuration should live in network configuration. IIRC there's an outstanding bug for network-manager to do proxy configuration depending on network. So if E should do it I think it should be in exalt and you should be able to define a different proxy for different networks. I agree that proxies are a pain in the ass, even worse some programs have their own proxy configuration, which makes it even more annoying when you move networks. > > 2009/8/28 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> > > > > > On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:05:35 -0300 Wido <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > first, i don't have control on the proxy. Second, big company, lots of > > > > country's, lots of proxys (even 2 where i am). So you can choose which > > > one > > > > you prefer > > > > i still think it sucks, but is out of my limits. > > > > > > in general iu agree - proxies suck. a transparent proxy tho means u can > > > enforce > > > one on your network and not need anyone to configure anything. much lower > > > IT > > > overhead. forcing everyy machine to configure it to me says bad IT people > > > (unless you have maybe 5 or fewer machines - at which point it's such a > > > small > > > company you dont need a proxy etc.) :) > > > > > > but it's in your startup scripts (~/.xsession etc.) or .bashrc etc. etc. > > > that > > > you set your environment up for your user. :) yes e could do it - but it > > > doesnt > > > have such a feature currently :) > > > > > > > Gustavo, i'm not a coder, although i know some C and some python. I'll > > > try > > > > to do as you told me, really appreciate it!!! > > > > > > > > 2009/8/27 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:58:20 -0300 Wido <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > > > > > i've tryed Robin's tip and it doesn't works either. > > > > > > Raster, I don't like non-transparent proxys and I know E doesn't has > > > a > > > > > lot > > > > > > > > > > if you have a proxy, and otherwise, http (https) is blocked without > > > using > > > > > the > > > > > proxy.. then what's the point of it being non-transparent? either u > > > > > use > > > > > proxy > > > > > or it doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > of things (hey, i love it anyway), that is why i suggested something > > > like > > > > > > that. IMO, kde has a nice approach on several ways to do > > > > > that....although, > > > > > > they don't work that nice (at least, for me) > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/8/22 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:11:19 -0300 Wido <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i haven't done exactly that, but my guess is that everithing in > > > > > > > > /etc/environment is going to be sourced by bash (which i use) > > > > > > > > and > > > > > thus, > > > > > > > > "sourced" by e. I'll try it anyway on my work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyway, wouldn't be nice to have something like that? i mean, i > > > guess > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > and more cool stuff may be comming and something as a proxy > > > setting > > > > > seems > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be something normal in any desktop by this days (gnome, kde and > > > xfce > > > > > at > > > > > > > > least have it) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-transparent proxies imho are broken proxies, if that is the > > > only > > > > > way to > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > a connection. (if proxy is optional - that's another matter). as > > > for > > > > > proxy > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > you can set HTTP_PROXY in your system environmewnt, personal > > > bashrc, > > > > > > > profile or > > > > > > > whatever you please. no e doesn't have any settings for it. it > > > doesn't > > > > > have > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > lot of things :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Wido > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > > > > > 30-Day > > > > > > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > > > > > focus on > > > > > > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > > > > > > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > -------------- > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Wido > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Wido > > > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dr. Jochen Schröder Centre for Ultrahigh Bandwidth Devices for Optical Systems CUDOS Institute for Photonics and Optical Science IPOS School of Physics A28 The University of Sydney NSW 2006 Australia Tel: +61 2 9036 9430 Fax: +61 2 9351 7726 Email: [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
