On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:16:18 -0500 "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" <[email protected]> said:
> > It would appear that on Feb 19, Carsten Haitzler did say: > > > tried the scaling config? :) (for people with bad eyesight... or when dpi > > is stupidly high...) :) it's under look... check out the advanced one... > > and a custom scaling setting might be the go. a full restart of e will be > > needed for it to totally work right... > > > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:08:57 -0500 "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" > > <[email protected]> said: > > > > Then I tried: > > > > > > settings panel=>Look=>scaling > > > > > > And while I eventually got it to distort the icon/labels > > > such as "Look", "Apps", "Screen", "Input", etc... in the > > > settings panel, neither menu font size nor button label > > > font size were even affected... > > > > > > My sore eyes are tired of squinting. (glad I still got e16!) are you using the default theme? the theme defines what will scale and what wont when scaling.? > Well thanks for the quick response Carston. But as I said I "_TRIED_" to > use the scaling option. But I'm not sure I understand the effect that any > particular setting in the gui tool is supposed to have... And when I > blindly tried one change after another I eventually got "_SOME_" results. > The only thing that I saw get bigger was the text labeled icons that > scroll sideways across the top of the settings panel. It appeared to > have NO effect on any other font in or out of the settings panel... 1. go to advanced. 2. enable "custom scaling factor" 3. change "personal scaling factor". the minumum and maximum sliders will limit the actual effect of the personal scaling factor to within these values. > (Yes I used restart to punctuate each change I attempted to > make... Unnh! By "FULL restart" do you mean completely > shutting down the server as in practically rebooting? Or > should E's marvelous restart function do it?) no - just restart e (ctrl+alt+end will do the trick - or the menu option). > Actually I doubt I'd be happy with dpi based scaling solutions anyway. > IF they worked wouldn't they also make all my already large print > application settings (like Konsole font sizes) become even BIGGER??? no. e's scaling is its own. it has nothing to do with gtk or qt - it does affect elementary though - but elementary will then match e's scaling and look like it fits :) e can caluclate the scaling factor it from dpi, leave it alone (leave at 1.0) or take a personal scaling factor you choose (and it will limit auto and manual scaling values between min and max scale values). > I hate to change all those fonts back to fine print as then every time > I wind up booting kde I'd have to change them back again... > > Incidentally I don't really think my font size needs are overly large. > I mean If I use the kernel option vga=normal the default font size on > the virtual consoles (such as you likely get with <ctrl>+<alt>+<Fkey>) > are always just about right. I note: that before gui designers decided > that everyone should have the vision of a hawk this was a "NORMAL" text > size...) that depends on the size of your monitor. 80x25 chars on a 10" netbook is vastly different to my 27" desktop. nb - a font that size would just offend me so badly i'd instantly use some other software :) just out of the principle of wasting my screen space so badly! :) remember - the point here is that 1 size does NOT fit all. where u think a totally outrageously massive font is good - i think it wastes my screen and time as i now have to scroll all day. the scale settings are there to scale not just to a dpi - but to adjust for a users sight and sizing preferences. really dpi is a misnoma. it's wrong to scale to dpi. you need to scale to VISUAL size. dpi is simply the physical size. a 50" screen is the same visual size as a 25" screen - if its 2x as far away, but its dpi is half of the 25" screen. you'd want the same scaling factor on both. it depends on dpi AND how far it is from you AND on your visual acuity. the machine can only perhaps figure out DPI based on monitor ddc info and resolution. the rest is unknown, thus a scaling factor for users to set. :) > I was really hoping that somewhere there was a configuration option to > select such things as what fonts are used in the menus, and pop-up gui > tools... there is - scale settings. everything scales that is set to. of course if you sue some other theme or a distribution and packages that use an altered theme - your mileage will vary. the default tags elements properly. > -- > | ^^^ ^^^ > | <o> <o> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook > | ^ J(tWdy)P > | ___ <<[email protected]>> > | > | <sigh> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
