It would appear that on Feb 6, Jean-Philippe Monteiro did say:
> Welcome!
Thank you!
> On top, I'd reckon you need e16keyedit, which is your simplest way to get
> an overview and control over all these binding stuff. Indeed you can edit
> the txt file, but e16keyedit does the job & shows you what's possible and
> what's not.
OK I'll admit that as gui tools go, e16keyedit is fairly straight forward
tool. I'm not likely to download it from any source but what ever
version may or may not be available in the package management
repositories of my chosen linux distribution(S) { Note I've already
used too much band width explaining that in my reply to "Noorul Islam
K M" {this thread}...
It was available in Kubuntu's sanctioned repositories. But zypper
couldn't find it for OpenSuSE... Don't know about Sabayon linux yet.
Still from Kubunto I can use it as a guide to what's possible, then
manualy replicate the changes in the bindings file on OpenSuSE...
> On Friday 06 February 2009, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > a few questions:
> >
> > 1) In bindings.cfg there is a section for global keybindings where
> > (in the modifier column) an S = shift, C = ctrl, and A = alt...
> > But is there a way to specify the windows key as a modifier
> > here???
> >
> > 2) I miss the run prompt that kde usually has mapped to <alt>+<F2>.
> > Is there an application to do this for e16??
> Using e16keyedit, I did that: connected xterm "home" to alt+f2 and xterm
> "myworkfiles on the raid array" to alt+f3: there is no limits, no
> useages, only whatever may suits you. That's the power of E.
Yeah, I thought of that. And E seams to be able to generate a new
xterm window quick enough. (or even a konsole if kde is installed)
But I'm not used to the idea of spending a terminal window just type
in the name (and arguments) of some gui program that most people seam
to want to click on an icon for. And historically the run command
window had a consistent (and separate) command history so that most of
the time instead of typing something like:
"kwrite /long/{censored}/pathname<enter>" All I'd have to do is
"kwr<down><down><enter> or some such and be sure I was editing the
same file... But I've got yakuake installed and it's configured to
use <win>+<alt>+<F2> as a hot key... As long as I remember to use &
where appropriate it works as a fair substitute for krunner...
> > 3) I'm not sure what you call that feature that when I try to grab
> > a scroll bar near the right hand side of the screen I'm likely
> > to accidentally cause the whole desktop to slide to the left
> > leaving me with space to open another full sized window. But is
> > it possible to link this to a keyboard binding???
> > AND prevent the mouse from ever doing this again???
> > ( my mouse pointer coordination is poor. So I keep scrolling
> > the desktop by mistake...)
>
> You can kill the "switch to next desktop with mouse" from
> -> rmb-click on desktop --> "virtual desktop settings"
Hmmnn the "virtual desktop settings" let me completely disable the
sideways switch to the other "panel(s) of the same desktop. But it
didn't tell me how to access this feature with the keyboard. That's
OK I just reduce the desktop area from 1x2 screens to 1x1 and enable
twice as many desktops... Each with their own distinct background
image.
> Trough keyedit too, I assigned only 1 virtual desktop with 9 virtual
> areas that are connected to ctrl+alt + <keypad numbers 1 to 9 > - that's
> very handy, and mouseless again. shift + <keypad numbers 1 to 9 > sends
> the selected window to the corresponding area.
Sheesh, I just looked at your key binding example of this. It would
take me a while to figure out the grid reference (I'm guessing that
your desktop area is configured as 3x3 in the "virtual desktop
settings" tool... If I decide to do that I bet it would do the same
thing for each of my 8 desktops.
IE:
=> KeyDown C F1 desk goto 0
=> KeyDown C F2 desk goto 1
But I'd never keep track of what was where...
I think 8 (1x1 area) desktops is plenty for me. If it gets tight I'll
have to look your example to figure out how to build a simpler
navigation for no more than a 2x2 area. But I doubt I'll need it.
> > 4) When using an ~/.xinirc such as this:
> >
> > xterm -bg WhiteSmoke -fn 12x24 -geometry 83x27 &
> > xterm -bg black -fg green -fn 10x20 -geometry 95x20 &
> > oclock &
> > e16
> >
> > Is there a way to put some of these applications on a desktop
> > other than the first one?
>
> The "remember" feature allows you to tell a running app to, well,
> remember where it is, how big, on top or below... and even to update its
> status. Just alt+rmb+click on the desired windows to access the remember
> feature, and select which one is interesting for you. Notice the "restart
> app on startup" that may save you the hidden files tweaking... For which
> I am not qualified to answer.
Oh... OK It seams to be a simpler ( and quite possibly better ) way to
do this than using kde's restore saved session on startup feature...
Actually now that I understand it I like it. Though the version of e16
I got on OpenSuSE only sometimes offers the restart on startup
choice... For example I had to put:
=> konsole --workdir ~/mail --schema "red on gray.schema" -e alpine &
=> kaffeine &
=> kmix &
in the ~/.xinitrc but it was quite happy to remember to start ksnapshot,
and "xclock -digital" for me. "Go figure..." Still when it boots
ksnapshot is parked in a corner of desk 1 a konsole screen with a
running instance of alpine is sitting on desk2, And desk 4 has the
xclock displaying the time and date along with kmix & kaffeine ready
and waiting for me to fire up my background music... {works for me!}
> These tweaking do require the mouse, but are really easy to handle since
> the e16 interface is there to make it easy for you to change your WM in
> any way you like; and they require none of the knowledge. If something
> doesn't fit, or seems to be "not there", just hit "restart", it won't
> kill your running apps or opened windows. And everything from the desktop
> menu can be bound to special keypresses too.
Oh! somebody built a "restart" that doesn't wipe out what ever parts
the user started using before he noticed that something else didn't
initialize??? Good to know. But first something would have to fail to
start... Doesn't seam to be a problem yet.
> Dunno about the M$ key though.
I do {now} on Kubuntu e16keyedit offered the win key in it's list of
modifier combinations... In the bindings file it called alt+win "A2"
which didn't work. But got me thinking about some references I used to
see about configuring the win key as "Mod 1-5" so with little trial
and error I was able to confirm that A4 is Alt+Win on both my Kubuntu
and my OpenSuSE installations
> > 5) I've noticed that most of the messages on the list seem to have
> > [e-users] in the subject... Is that part of the netiquette here?
> No, it's automatic, helps your mail client to triage them in your
> "lists" folder for instance.
of course there are other ways for a mail client (or procmail) and
sort besides a code built into the subject line. But it may help those
who sort semi manually, so it's fine by me.
> Cheers from quite an e16 all-time fanatic; 3 years I have been using it
> for its speed and tweaking convenience in real-life, real-work.
Now that I've tried it I'm already envious of your past 3 years...
Methinks I to, will quickly become a fanatic... It's all good!
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