On Monday, 28 June 2004, at 18:16:13 (-0400), Bradley Reed wrote: > Of course I have to disagree. :)
No, really? I never would've expected that.... ;-) > I think Slackware is perfect for the control-freak who wants to get > his system up and running quickly. The small selection of packages > are rock-solid, and the distro is extremely stable. To be fair, a number of other distributions offer the same. (Trustix was, I believe, already mentioned.) You might also be interested in cAos (www.caosity.org). The entirely-self-hosting core OS weighs in at 512MB (most of which is stuff needed to build it) and will have a maintenance lifetime of over 5 years. > LFS is for the control-freak who doesn't mind spending a month to > get his system compiled and fine-tuned. Most people I've encountered who use it are doing so to learn, much like those who chose Slackware over RH/Debian. > Gentoo is for the person who wants to claim his system is 'fastest > 'cuz he compiled everything himself'. Gentoo, IMNSHO, is only for > people with wide-band internet connections and lots of time to waste > compiling everything per someone else's emerge scripts. Can't argue with you there. Nevertheless, it is a very hands-on distribution. As it happens, I encounter far more obnoxious Gentoo users these days than I do Slackware users. If current and future Slackware releases don't cause me the amounts of frustration and stress the previous ones did, then by all means, use it. I just get fed up with people who don't understand how their distribution functions and yet expect us (e.g., #E) to solve their problems. Personally, I don't care what people use as long as they know what they're doing. It's the people whose clue is in short supply and who chose a hands-on distribution anyway that annoy me. Given what I've seen from you on this list, you are certainly not in that category. > Redhat/Fedora, Debian and all other dependency-checking > package-based distros have the annoying problem of claiming to know > your system better than you do. God forbid you ever compile > something from source without packaging it and using the > package-manager to install it. I detest package managers always > insisting I need to downgrade my system or install totally > irrelevant packages to support imaginary 'dependancies'. I agree, which is why I specify few (if any) package dependencies in the packages I...package. (Wow, talk about redundant redundancy....) I would like to point out, though, that at least RPM has support for filesystem-level dependencies, like requiring /usr/bin/enlightenment rather than the "enlightenment" package name. > Slackware is also rather unique, although one could make LFS > similarly, in its BSD-style boot up scripts. We have no /etc/init.d > or /etc/rc.d/rc#.d, we have no runlevel 5 for that matter. I find > the simplified boot-up much quicker and easier to modify for my > needs. Well, the SysV init is much cleaner, IMHO, and is far more package- friendly. It's certainly not ideal, though, and has some rather painful issues. Lesser of two evils is a very subjective conclusion. :) Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Swiss have an interesting army. Five hundred years without a war. Pretty impressive. Also pretty lucky for them. Ever see that little Swiss Army knife they have to fight with? Not much of a weapon there. Corkscrews. Bottle openers. 'Come on, buddy, let's go. You get past me, the guy in back of me, he's got a spoon. Back off. I've got the toe clippers right here.' " -- Jerry Seinfeld ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
