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>Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?
>Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 17:19:53 -0400 (EDT)
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>Well, we (GATOS) do have the docs, under similar NDA. I believe PI/VA was
>more "doc-rich" ;) But (looking in them) they document at least basic 3d
>functionality (don't know about TL and stuff, have not looked thoroughly
>enough). Keep in mind that what we get is much better than nothing but not
>as good as we would like. Probably, when ATI writes drivers internally
>they rely on talking to their hardware people too much.
I think you probably got the same docs that PI/VA got and those docs are
fairly complete. The advantage of ATI engineers is that they can talk
directly to the people who designed the chip.
>PSS Doc-rich refers to them allegedly having documentation for iDCT. Now,
>for conspiracy people, consider this: Loki had iDCT docs and they are in
>trouble, PI/VA got them - and VA is downsizing.. ;) Just kidding..
Loki didn't get low level (i.e. register level) idct docs. They got an idct
library with docs on how to use that library. I don't think PI/VA got them
either. There is some seriously proprietary stuff with idct that for legal
reasons ATI wouldn't want to expose.
David
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