Hi Kent.

The project is very real and very big.  There are three developers working
on in, myself and two others.  The other two chaps are from a strong Delphi
background, and as I mentioned I am primarily a VB/ASP man.  We've decided
to start writing any new modules for our CRM product in C# with view to do a
complete re-write.

It makes sense for us all to learn this together so we can work more
efficiently.  Currently all the COM libraries are written in Delphi so there
is a certain element of waiting for those bits to be completed before
progressing.

My understanding in that the data can be served up by COM objects (written
in C#) to a variety of clients via SOAP.  Am I right in thinking that we can
ship all the real processing and data collection to the server, leaving us
with very lightweight clients?

I'm not quite sure where XSLT fits in; is this something to do with
automating the production of HTML pages using XML as the datasource,
something like that?

I appreciate any advice you can offer to a .net newbie and his collegues :)

Cheers,

 .ben

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ktegels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 16 January 2003 18:47
> To: dotnet
> Subject: RE: c#, xml, SOAP, etc
> 
> 
> Ben,
> 
> Thanks for the props about Wrox books!
> 
> C# is worth getting a book on if you'd not done classic C or 
> C++ before. If
> you've done C or Perl, C# is pretty much cake.
> You really need two XML books in my mind. First is any basic 
> primer on XML.
> Second is Tennison's "Beginning XSLT."  No doubt that Dr. T 
> knows her stuff
> and she's great writer.
> Web services is different horse. If you're going to write 
> them with an MS
> tool, I really like our beginning web services books. If your 
> going to use
> some other platform (say Java) be prepared for a lot of work 
> and reading. I
> agree that Web Services really aren't hard to write, there's 
> just a million
> ways to botch it up. :)
> 
> The best thing to do IMHO is to do. Find something you want 
> to write a web
> service for and go for it. MS makes it easy, fast, and harder 
> to customer.
> Other tools -- IMHO-- make it harder, slower but more rewarding.
> 
> Kent Tegels
> Contributing Author, Wrox Press
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:54 AM
> To: dotnet
> Subject: RE: c#, xml, SOAP, etc
> 
> 
> Yeah, Wrox are usually pretty good.
> 
> As work is paying for it I'm thinking of getting this:
> http://www.wrox.com/books/1861007329.htm
> 
> I'm from a strong ASP/VB/COM/SQL background (5 years) and 
> have recently
> started using PHP, hopefully the jump to C# shouldn't be too 
> tricky. The Web
> Services stuff sounds funky, I'm dying to have a go.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
>  .ben
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Travis D. Falls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 16 January 2003 17:50
> > To: dotnet
> > Subject: RE: c#, xml, SOAP, etc
> > 
> > 
> > Ben,
> > Before you buy a book check out the web for soap and xml
> > tutorials. Soap is just a protocol/standard that you format 
> > you xml in.  Once you understand basic xml (it isn't that 
> > complicated it is just a standard way to mark up plain text) 
> > you will can just read up on soap on the web. They you can 
> > buy or find a book on C# is should have a section on xml and 
> > touch on soap.  The wrox (big red books) should have a good 
> > section. I have done soap and xml before, and accessed then 
> > via java and vb.net. I am sure C# is the same.  
> > 
> > travis
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ben joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:20 PM
> > To: dotnet
> > Subject: c#, xml, SOAP, etc
> > 
> > hi all.
> > 
> > just wondering if anyone can recommend a good book for
> > learning how to build & use SOAP objects in c#/xml.  My idea 
> > is that my app/website (plan to write both) will request data 
> > via SOAP.  c# will talk to the database and return data in 
> > XML back to the calling code, where is is displayed.
> > 
> > I've never used c#, very little XML and not touched SOAP so a
> > good book is needed!
> > 
> > suggestions appreciated!
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >  .ben
> > 
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