On 22/09/2020 15:55, Olivier Hallot wrote: > Hi Dave > > Em 22/09/2020 09:51, DaveB escreveu: >> Sorry folks, I am back here again with yet another proposal. >> >> It is starting to become our practice to link published guides on the >> website and wiki back to the Published Folder on the Documentation >> NextCloud instance. In *theory* this should not create any issues and is >> an extremely easy and convenient (lazy) mechanism for us to use. > > Scattering files in several places increases work on file tracking, IMO. > >> >> I am currently involved with the on-line training of two people, who >> have been complaining that links I have given them to website and wiki >> copies of the documentation don't allow them to DIRECTLY download the >> required guides, without getting into a "jumping through hoops" >> work-around to download the required material. I encountered this myself >> when trying to offer Bernard John Poole some guidance on the mailing >> list. Namely that clicking the link-back links opens the files in the >> web browser and a browser right click "Save As" offers a weirdly >> formatted copy of the NextCloud html file. > > Links to ODF files in stored in TDF Nextcloud triggers the LibreOffice > Online module and opens LibreOffice Online inside the browser. That > said, you cannot "save as" the file from the browser menu (it will save > the URL content which is an html gibberish). You must choose the menu > File - Download to be able to save the copy of the document in your > computer with the bonus of selecting the file format. > > Links to PDF files will open the pdfviewer of NextCloud which just add a > blue header in the page and has a Download button on the right. As far > as I can see, the PDF file is rendered inside the browser. Likewise, do > not use the browser "save as", but use the Download button instead. > >> >> Even though the link-back mechanism is convenient for us, it really >> doesn't take a great deal of work to upload the published material to >> the wiki/website, but does make life much easier for our readers. >> >> So can we please end this method of linking back to the NextCloud instance. > > I beg to differ, not diminishing your remarks, but the links to > NextCloud is also a display of the LibreOffice technology and a live > example of the online features. > > Kind regards
Hi Oliver, Agreed, it is "*nice*" to showcase LibreOffice technology, but that is not what our readers who seek to obtain a copies of our documentation are interested in. In principle I also oppose "Scattering files in several places", which is in part why I proposed the simplification of the next cloud directory structure. However, when we get fist hand negative feedback about something we do purely for our own convenience, I think it's time review what is best for our readers. Uploading copies of the documentation files to the wiki/website has never been a problem or an issue in the past and there is no clear reason, other than it is useful for our own convenience, to change that now just because we can. If we continue this link-back method let us at least see if we can find some way of informing our readers of the work-around steps to download copies of our documentation and not some vague entry in a wiki page. Currently, our links dump them at (to them) an unknown destination and leaves them to work it out from there. I seriously doubt that our QA/UX teams would congratulate us for adopting such a policy. Sorry to be a PITA, but I am pushing these things, because I see them as being important for the benefit of our readers. That is not to say that you don't share that same interest, but we hold different views about how to serve those interests. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
