Hello, when I got started with Django more than 10 years ago, I had inherited a legacy project with an Oracle database for porting from PHP to Python. It might also have worked out well if Oracle support had been a 3rd party package, but I can say for sure that Oracle being a core feature of Django was a huge help in getting me started.
I'm aware that this is a weak argument from unfortunately a code non-contributor (or indirect contributor at best) who is not shouldering the work and not even using the Oracle backend any more (we migrated to MySQL). But still, I would like to express my opinion that having Oracle in Django core is a worthwhile asset. Best regards, Carsten Am 03.08.23 um 10:25 schrieb Paolo Melchiorre: > Hi all, > I wanted to share the frustration of seeing yet another great new ORM > feature blocked due to Oracle compatibility: > https://github.com/django/django/pull/16417 > > In the past, I too have had to put a lot of effort trying to make a PR > compatible with Oracle, making the overall contributing experience > much less pleasant and holding me back from contributing, especially > in the early days. > > Over the last few months, I've tried to encourage newcomers and young > users to contribute to Django and they almost always ran into the need > to provide compatibility to Oracle, so much so that they eventually > gave up contributing. > > I stress that I am absolutely not criticizing the contributors (very > few) in the community who help overcome the difficulties with Oracle. > > The point is that I think Oracle is a historical anomaly among the > database backends supported by Django because it is the only one that > is not Open Source, it has irrelevant usage numbers (see Django > Developers Survey 2022 Results > https://lp.jetbrains.com/django-developer-survey-2022/#horizontal-bar-chart-862) > and the company that earns from it does not contribute in any way to > its maintenance or support (see Carlton Gibson keynote at PyCon Italia > 2023 https://youtu.be/AHjnGtaWDjU?t=836) > > To add to all this we consider that developing for Oracle is much more > difficult than for the other Open Source databases supported by Django > and above all the new contributors to the ORM have a frustrating > experience and therefore they are less and less. > > I, therefore, suggest that we start a discussion on removing Oracle > from supported databases. > > Ciao, > Paolo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/199b5a9f-1b10-eb13-68ea-46a66cad609b%40cafu.de.
