On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Luke Plant <l.plant...@cantab.net> wrote:

> On 05/05/11 20:12, Dave McLain wrote:
> > I have apologized on #django-dev as well, but I do feel like I ought to
> > throw my mea culpa up here as well for posterity. I misread Jacob's "I
> > think this is a great idea" to mean "Go ahead and set 'Patch needs
> > Improvement'" on 100 tickets rather than what I should have read "Some
> > method of automatically checking patches and giving some feedback, but
> > without spamming the world would be great".
> >
> > I let my enthusiasm get the best of me and as penance I'll spend some
> > hours trying to get some of the patches that I just let a script say
> > need improvement to apply cleanly.
>
> From my point of view, there's no need to do that. There are many
> patches that we basically have to consider 'abandoned' - if the original
> author doesn't keep them up to date, they can't expect anyone else to.
> I'd redirect your sense of guilt elsewhere :-)
>
> However, I agree with Jannis that marking many old patches as needing
> improvement in this way is not always helpful. If a patch hasn't been
> reviewed by a human, it could be frustrating to be told that it doesn't
> apply to trunk, then update it, when it never stood a chance anyway
> because 1) no human was actually bothered about it or 2) the approach
> was all wrong, and that could have been seen by a manual review,
> *before* saying that it doesn't apply. And then there is the issue of
> overwhelming people with spam.
>
> I do think this could be useful though. If someone submits a patch that
> *immediately* doesn't apply to trunk, then it will be useful to know
> that, and hooking this in to Trac at the point the patch is uploaded
> would be useful.
>
> So, given that you've already dealt with the complete backlog, although
> it was a bit of a deluge, that shouldn't happen again, so it might not
> be a bad idea to keep it on going forward. There may also be the
> possibility of leaving the comments, but not triggering the e-mails. If
> patchhammer has admin rights to Trac, it could use the batchmodify
> plugin, which would allow that.
>
> Luke
>
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Another option (which I haven't though much about).  Is a button on trac to
spot check a patch with this.  When I start to look at a ticket a 1-click
way to check if the patch is even going to apply is a low-effort way to let
me know the current status.

Alex

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