This is a good conversation, and I hope it continues. Here are some thoughts, which I've brought up a number of times over the past couple of months and remain unresolved.
Django is all about *actual tools that get actual stuff done* -- not about buzz words, or academic noodling, or "let's make a framework because it's fun." It's about solving real needs, real fast, intelligently and efficiently. This is a framework that has very strong, deep roots in Real Projects in the Real World. In fact, its genesis is from real-world projects. With that in mind, I still want to comprehend this mysterious concept of "Ajax support." In fact, I yearn for it. I want to know what it is, desparately. I've been using XMLHttpRequest for years now. My chicagocrime.org site, powered by Django, uses Ajax in several places (chicagocrime.org/map, for one). Django made this very easy. Yet I still can't fathom what "Ajax support" at the server-side-framework level *means*. Hence, I plead with the proponents of "Ajax support:" Please show concrete examples of what you want. Enlighten us. We would be happy to accomodate you, if we only knew what you wanted. :-) Adrian -- Adrian Holovaty holovaty.com | djangoproject.com | chicagocrime.org