Hi Seth,

I think that Joerg is quite right, we need to place a bit of
organization around it and the work must be done by an external
coordinator, not a developer tied to a single distribution. Some key
contributing distributions may include:
- Belenix, mentioned on the list that they were resuming development
cycles in 2013. I have not seen much activity since May 2013.
Sometimes, affiliated members appear on the Illumos/OpenIndiana lists.
- Tribblix has been active on the list, re-adding some features such
as Sparse Zones. (We use this feature aggressively under Solaris 10
and have been waiting for it to re-appear under OpenSolaris.)
- DilOS has been active on the list, refreshing early features from
OpenSolaris such as Xen. It appears they were open to host OpenSXCE.
- OpenSXCE had done some great work, refreshing capabilities from
OpenSolaris, such as SPARC. (Looks pretty good, we have been testing.)

I made some effort to pull together distros for better cooperation.
Some of my thoughts were included in the following presentation.
http://svr4.blogspot.com/

There are hidden pages behind this lonely looking svr4 blog. It was
prepped for a release, but enough progress to make Illumos more ISV,
Carrier, and Managed Service Provider friendly did not happen. The
window of opportunity for some members in the community to earn a
living on 3 new verticals and diversify from cloud and storage silo
had closed... and so did the time I had to invest in the community.

I am interested in collaboration, but my time is more limited, until
we can make some serious progress in diversifying, so this product can
become more appealing to new market verticals. With 3 new market
verticals, each earning about $333K/year, new community members could
probably become compensated contributors, without internally competing
against other existing founding contributors, and the overall pie
could grow.

There are probably a 4th and 5th market vertical that can be
approached, with Oracle abandoning other markets, recently. This could
bring the cooperative effort down to multiple revenue streams of
$250K/year or even $200K/year to be distributed among community
members.

If the various non-commercial distro's could come together with a
little organization and a single (functioning) network packaging
forum, this could be beneficial for a bunch of community members...
not to mention, that I might not have to migrate a bunch of my systems
to Linux or Windows, but that number shrinks daily. :-(

Thanks, David Halko
http://netmgt.blogspot.com/

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I am with you when you say that people should collaborate. Although,
>
>
>>
>>-       IPS must not be the only packaging
>>
>
> is quite reasonable. I don't undestand why
>
>
>>-       /usr/gnu must not be the default first entry in PATH
>>
>>-       /sbin/sh may be a link to the Bourne Shell
>>
>
> Bash is great and fortunately or unfortunately most applications
> expect bash and not Bourne shell.  Also, I have compiled a number of
>
> important tools and all expect the GNU ls, GNU ld, etc. For starters
> OpenOffice/LibreOffice expect GNU tools. In addition, since it is
>
> not trivial to maintain 'ld' and 'as' why not adopting the GNU
> equivalents and forget about the Solaris things. And of course,
> sooner or later people should choose to use either GCC or LLVM
>
> as the official compiler. Sun Studio is closed source and not
>
> actively maintained.
>
> A.S.
>
>
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> Apostolos Syropoulos
> Xanthi, Greece
>
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