Hi Ethan,
Conda and manba seem to loook great, but as says your guide :
> Right now it only works on x86_64 glibc Linux.
And I am working on aarch64. So I did not follow the conda way.
But I tried on another env with Clang already there (within NEXTSPACE: Debian
clang version 14.0.6).
So I could build some parts and was stuck at this (I just copied the end,
because all the errors are the same):
OOStyleRegistry.mm:348:7: note: candidate constructor (the implicit copy
constructor) not viable: requires 1 argument, but 7 were provided
class number_style_attribute : public style_attribute
^
OOStyleRegistry.mm:348:7: note: candidate constructor (the implicit move
constructor) not viable: requires 1 argument, but 7 were provided
3 warnings and 13 errors generated.
gmake[3]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/rules.make:575:
obj/OpenOutliner.obj/OOStyleRegistry.mm.o] Error 1
gmake[2]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Instance/application.make:145:
internal-app-run-compile-submake] Error 2
gmake[1]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Master/rules.make:297:
OpenOutliner.all.app.variables] Error 2
make: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Master/application.make:38: internal-all] Error
2
Obviously due to my clang version.
On 2025-04-26 04:03:51 +0200 Ethan C <[email protected]> wrote:
> Could you try my guide to installing GNUstep with Conda
> <https://github.com/ethanc8/gnustep-forge-feedstocks/blob/master/guide.md>?
> Use the environment.yml in the OpenOutliner repo
> <https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner/blob/master/environment.yml> rather
> than the one in the guide. It should have everything you need, but I've only
> tested it on my machine.
>
> Note that you always need to `mamba activate gnustep` in order to enter the
> environment. This environment will contain Clang, the latest stable releases
> of the GNUstep core libraries as of December, glibc 2.34, libbsd, zlib, and
> all the other dependencies.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ethan
>
> On 4/25/25 17:42, Patrick Cardona wrote:
>> Hello Ethan and Greg,
>
>> Tried to build from the last commit of Ethan, but obviously, my GNUstep
>> environment (GS-Desktop by Ondrej Florian, on Debian 12, aarch64) is not
>> enough up to date: I am missing arc and the compiler complains:
>
>>> Compiling file AppDelegate.m ...
>>> gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-fobjc-arc’; did you
>>> mean ‘-fobjc-gc’?
>> I installed clang, but it did not fixed this.
>
>> Are you both working on FreeBSD ?
>
>> On 2025-04-25 21:18:59 +0200 Ethan C<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> After adding all the resources and setting the main storyboard to
>>> Main.storyboard, it gives me an error saying that -[NSXMLDocument
>>> initWithData:options:error] is being called with data = nil. I have just
>>> committed this change, and I can't debug further.
>
>>> On 4/25/25 13:13, Gregory Casamento wrote:
>>>> If you commit your changes (I presume you have) I'll take a look.
>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:04 PM Ethan C<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> After disabling the pasteboard, the app now builds and links.
>>>> However, only the miniwindow shows up, and it complains about not
>>>> being able to find its resources. I don't know the GNUstep
>>>> resource system well so some help would be appreciated.
>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 10:10 Ethan C<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Thanks Patrick, Greg!
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> I have written a GNUmakefile. The main obstacle is the
>>>> pasteboard functionality.
>>>> GNUstep implements the OpenStep/pre-10.5 OSX pasteboard (see
>>>> the GNUstep docs
>
>>>> <https://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Gui/Reference/NSPasteboard.html>
>>>> and the Apple docs
>
>>>> <https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CopyandPaste/CopyandPaste.html>);
>>>> I have no idea how it integrates with the system's clipboards.
>>>> This pasteboard contains a single item, which may have
>>>> multiple representations.
>>>> Modern macOS implements the post-10.6 OSX pasteboard (see the
>>>> Apple docs
>
>>>> <https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/PasteboardGuide106/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40008099>
>>>> - "Pasteboard Concepts" is the most important part), and
>>>> OpenOutliner expects this to work. This pasteboard is a list
>>>> of items (for example, if you copy a selection of a webpage
>>>> which contains an image it should put a rich text and an image
>>>> onto the pasteboard), each of which may have multiple
>>>> representations. Additionally, it starts using Uniform Type
>>>> Identifiers (UTIs) in order to refer to types rather than use
>>>> the old pasteboard type strings (at least in 10.6 those old
>>>> strings were still supported but were deprecated).
>>>> It looks kind of complicated to implement the new pasteboard
>>>> API, so maybe we could try porting OpenOutliner to the old
>>>> pasteboard API or temporarily disabling all the features which
>>>> need the pasteboard. Do any of you have opinions on this?
>>>> The Uniform Type Identifiers framework, part of
>>>> LaunchServices, seems to be implemented by Boron so we could
>>>> probably do that. (However, that would make gnustep-gui depend
>>>> on Boron, which may or may not be wanted.) We might want to
>>>> implement in Boron the new Uniform Type Identifiers framework
>
>>>> <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uniformtypeidentifiers?language=objc>
>>>> introduced in macOS 11 Big Sur, which is object-oriented (UTIs
>>>> are of type `UTType*` rather than `NSString*`, and it provides
>>>> an Objective-C API). Although OpenOutliner doesn't use the new
>>>> UTI APIs, it would be useful to implement in case newer apps
>>>> need it, and regardless it seems to be a cleaner API.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ethan
>>>> On 4/25/25 08:01, Gregory Casamento wrote:
>>>>> Ethan,
>>>>> Mine is gcasa. I would like to help a little if I can. Also,
>>>>> expanding libs-xcode, if it needs it, to handle it.
>>>>> Yours, GC
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 4:11 AM Patrick Cardona
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-24 18:50:21 +0200 Ethan C
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Ethan,
>>>>> > I started on the porting at
>>>>> https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner.
>>>>> Great!
>>>>> > You can
>>>>> > grep for "FIXME-GNUstep" for the things that don't work
>>>>> yet (the whole thing
>>>>> > doesn't compile yet). If you give me your GitHub
>>>>> username I can give you
>>>>> > commit access to my fork.
>>>>> Mine is: pcardona34
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 4/24/25 08:14, Patrick Cardona wrote:
>>>>> >> Hello Ethan,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Thanks for this mention. I shall look at this.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On 2025-04-24 04:57:47 +0200 Ethan C
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>> David Chisnall recently mentioned on Lobsters
>>>>> >>>
>
>>>>> <https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_i2m53u>
>>>>> >>> a clone of OmniOutliner 3 he wrote in 2017, and said
>>>>> it would be easily
>>>>> >>> portable. Its source is on GitHub
>>>>> >>><https://github.com/davidchisnall/OpenOutliner> if
>>>>> you want to look at it.
>>>>> >>> From the README it looks like a decently complex
>>>>> application with lots
>>>>> >>> of functionality, so it could be quite useful to port
>>>>> it. See also Liam
>>>>> >>> Proven's comment about why he uses outliners
>>>>> >>>
>
>>>>> <https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_owdlc8>
>>>>> >>> to get an idea of what outliner users would want. I
>>>>> might take up this at
>>>>> >>> some point, but I doubt it as I am quite busy and
>>>>> have too many side
>>>>> >>> projects already :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>> Ethan Charoenpitaks
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> -- Patrick Cardona - France
>>>>> MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 Model
>>>>> OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE
>
>
>
>>>>> -- Gregory Casamento
>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant
>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org -http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>>>> https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron
>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c
>
>>>>> https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation
>
>
>>>> --
>>>> Gregory Casamento
>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant
>>>> http://www.gnustep.org -http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>>> https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron
>>>> https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c
>>>> https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation
>
--
Patrick Cardona - France
MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 Model
OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE
