Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development wrote:
> Perhaps you forgot to read the part where I said:
>
>> Then, it comes a moment when "upstream" stuff has more and more
>> advantages -- more speed (algorithms), more flexibility (e.g. mutex
>> classes and utilities; shared_ptr<T[]>; etc.), more static analysis
>> tooling, and so on, than the equivalent classes offered in Qt.
>
> So now it's a good time to re-read it.
Perhaps you forgot to read the part where I said:
> I, for one, don't give a darn about all those new C++11/14/whatever STL
> features. I don't want to touch the STL with a 10-foot pole! The best
> thing Qt can do with the STL is pretend it doesn't exist. (I wish
> QT_NO_STL were still supported!)
So now it's a good time to re-read it.
To go through your claimed advantages of the STL point by point:
> more speed (algorithms)
I already answered that:
>> I don't care whether std::sort is faster. If the version of Qt I tested
>> with was fast enough, then I'm perfectly fine with newer versions not
>> being faster, no matter how fast some incompatible implementation
>> elsewhere is (and I don't care whether it happens to ship with my
>> compiler or not).
> more flexibility (e.g. mutex classes and utilities; shared_ptr<T[]>; etc.)
Who says I need that flexibility?
> more static analysis tooling
That's also something one can do without. I will use the static analysis
tools that work with my code, not the other way round.
>> QtAlgorithms should just be undeprecated. I don't care whether std::sort
>> is faster. If the version of Qt I tested with was fast enough, then I'm
>> perfectly fine with newer versions not being faster, no matter how fast
>> some incompatible implementation elsewhere is (and I don't care whether
>> it happens to ship with my compiler or not).
>
> I deflect your straw man attack using my amulet of logical fallacies,
This is not a straw man attack, but a direct answer to your "more speed
(algorithms)" claim. Therefore, your answer is the one that is fallacious.
> roll 3d4, and summon ad-hominem: this is the kind of reasoning of those
> people asking Henry Ford for faster horses.
And this ad hominem attack is not a useful contribution to the discussion in
any way.
Kevin Kofler
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