>Why do we need the document then?

We need the document to explain the complaint process and to establish the 
committee for dealing with complaints.

>CoC committee is just a people. They need some agreements how to make 
>decisions.

We are adults. Despite the apparent tolerance of the bad behavior of Donald 
Trump, we all know what is bad behavior in this context.

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From: Alexey Andreyev <yetanotherandre...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:56:18 PM
To: Martin Smith
Cc: Ulf Hermann; Qt development mailing list
Subject: Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

> I suspect that most if not all of the commenters here who object to the CoC 
> object to the attempt to define unacceptable behavior. It really has to be 
> decided on a case by case basis, so remove the examples of unacceptable 
> behavior, and don't attempt to define it at all.

I'm okay to develop the rules. I disagree though to leave an attempt to define 
unacceptable or acceptable behavior. What should we leave then? General 
recommendation about being conscious and think about future consequences? It 
could be written in one sentense. Why do we need the document then?

> so remove the examples of unacceptable behavior
I agree that just the examples are not helping

> No one can object to the examples of positive behavior. No one can object to 
> a CoC that simply promotes those positive examples and then establishes a 
> complaint process and a CoC committee to rule on each complaint.

CoC committee is just a people. They need some agreements how to make decisions.

чт, 25 окт. 2018 г. в 16:17, Martin Smith 
<martin.sm...@qt.io<mailto:martin.sm...@qt.io>>:
I suspect that most if not all of the commenters here who object to the CoC 
object to the attempt to define unacceptable behavior. It really has to be 
decided on a case by case basis, so remove the examples of unacceptable 
behavior, and don't attempt to define it at all.

No one can object to the examples of positive behavior. No one can object to a 
CoC that simply promotes those positive examples and then establishes a 
complaint process and a CoC committee to rule on each complaint.

martin

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 on behalf of Ulf Hermann <ulf.herm...@qt.io<mailto:ulf.herm...@qt.io>>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:17:09 AM
To: development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>
Subject: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

Hi,

regarding our earlier discussions on a possible Code of Conduct, here as
well as at the Contributors' Summit 2017, I've pushed a QUIP with the
necessary rules and definitions:

https://codereview.qt-project.org/243623

Please review it.

regards,
Ulf
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