On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Aleix Pol <aleix...@kde.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Mark <mark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Laszlo Papp <lp...@kde.org> wrote:
>>> Daker was also working on the Plasma Components project under the GSoC
>>> umbrella, so I think he is familiar with the topic. :-) I believe this
>>> is one of your best bets (and similar blog posts there):
>>>
>>> http://codecereal.blogspot.ie/2012/05/qml-themingstyling-update.html
>>>
>>> Laszlo
>>
>> Yeah, i've read about that earlier. But is that something for Qt
>> inclusion or is that for KDE? Or just an individual project? Something
>> like that should imho end up as high upstream as possible this Qt in
>> this case.
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Mark <mark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Bache-Wiig Jens
>>>> <jens.bache-w...@digia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Anyway, what is the plan right now? Don't do anything for the desktop
>>>>>>components till Qt 5 is released then developing the desktop
>>>>>>components further till they are perfect and ready to be released with
>>>>>>Qt 5.1?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a reasonable proposal. Perhaps they could be an addon to Qt 5.0. 
>>>>> To be honest we are still discussing exactly how to move Qt forward with 
>>>>> Digia as we only very recently signed our contracts and started getting 
>>>>> an overview on the new teams. What I do know is that Digia has shown a 
>>>>> real interest in bringing Qt Quick to the desktop so I would say the 
>>>>> future of this particular project already looks more promising than it 
>>>>> was within Nokia.
>>>>> There are of course plenty of things left to do before we can release 
>>>>> them with Qt. They need to be polished more in Qt5, they need proper 
>>>>> documentation, performance improvements, reducing widget dependencies and 
>>>>> I guess simplified deployment should be high up on that list as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jens
>>>>
>>>> -- could you please bottom post, that really improves thread readability 
>>>> :) --
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like the Qt Desktop Components have a bright future! I'm
>>>> looking forward to using them besides using git clones ;)
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, a theming question. How can the QML Desktop Components
>>>> currently be themed? Only by means of QStyle? Would there be a way to
>>>> use kde's plasma themes in the QML Desktop Components? And do the
>>>> desktop components depend on QWidgets only because of QStyle.
>>>>
>>>> // brainstorming
>>>> It would be neat to have a theme plugin system. For example a
>>>> structure like this:
>>>>
>>>> [ QStyle plugin ] -- [ Plasma plugin ] -- [ other plugin ] ...
>>>>           |                             |                         |
>>>>           --------------------[ Style API ]------------------
>>>>                                         |
>>>>                                   [ Style ] (C++ class exposed to QML)
>>>>
>>>> System define:
>>>> QML_COMPONENTS_PLUGIN=PluginName
>>>>
>>>> QML just "draws" the components in the selected style.
>>>>
>>>> This is just made up as i type this. I could be completely wrong, but
>>>> this does allow you to make one plugin that is QWidget dependent (the
>>>> QStyle plugin) thus it becomes easier to make the Desktop Components
>>>> QWidget independent. You just have to provide a style plugin that
>>>> doesn't depend on QWidgets :)
>>>> // end brainstorming
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if there is already something like this in place for
>>>> styling, if there is, please do tell me more about it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> Fra: development-bounces+jens.bache-wiig=digia....@qt-project.org 
>>>>>> [development-bounces+jens.bache-wiig=digia....@qt-project.org] p&#229; 
>>>>>> vegne av Mark [mark...@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sendt: 3. oktober 2012 13:19
>>>>>> To: Chris Meyer
>>>>>> Cc: development
>>>>>> Emne: Re: [Development] Qt desktop components project
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Chris Meyer <cmeyer1969...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Some progress for the Desktop Components for Qt 5 / Quick2 was
>>>>>>> announced in June in this blog entry:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://blog.qt.digia.com/2012/06/06/desktop-components-for-qt-5/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, the project isn't listed and there is no maintainer here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Maintainers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it possible to give some information about the future plans for
>>>>>>> this project? Is active development taking place? Will it eventually
>>>>>>> be an official component of the QtDeclarative module?
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> The development of that stuff "should" be here:
>>>>>> http://qt.gitorious.org/qtplayground/qtdesktopcomponents I say
>>>>>> "should" because there doesn't seem to be a lot of development in
>>>>>> there.
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>
> I think the initial idea was to have it in Qt for all to use. Also
> please note that in KDE we're moving towards a space where being in Qt
> or not will be a matter of repository more than technology. ;)
>
> Cheers!
> Aleix
>
> PS: If you want to ask further about the styles, I'd recommend to
> start a new thread, with a new subject...

Will do if i have more questions. For now i will see if one of the
desktop component devs respond to the questions, if they do my
followup (if needed) will probably go in a new thread.

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