On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Mark <mark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Laszlo Papp <lp...@kde.org> wrote:
>> Daker was also working on the Plasma Components project under the GSoC
>> umbrella, so I think he is familiar with the topic. :-) I believe this
>> is one of your best bets (and similar blog posts there):
>>
>> http://codecereal.blogspot.ie/2012/05/qml-themingstyling-update.html
>>
>> Laszlo
>
> Yeah, i've read about that earlier. But is that something for Qt
> inclusion or is that for KDE? Or just an individual project? Something
> like that should imho end up as high upstream as possible this Qt in
> this case.
>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Mark <mark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Bache-Wiig Jens
>>> <jens.bache-w...@digia.com> wrote:
>>>>>Anyway, what is the plan right now? Don't do anything for the desktop
>>>>>components till Qt 5 is released then developing the desktop
>>>>>components further till they are perfect and ready to be released with
>>>>>Qt 5.1?
>>>>
>>>> That is a reasonable proposal. Perhaps they could be an addon to Qt 5.0. 
>>>> To be honest we are still discussing exactly how to move Qt forward with 
>>>> Digia as we only very recently signed our contracts and started getting an 
>>>> overview on the new teams. What I do know is that Digia has shown a real 
>>>> interest in bringing Qt Quick to the desktop so I would say the future of 
>>>> this particular project already looks more promising than it was within 
>>>> Nokia.
>>>> There are of course plenty of things left to do before we can release them 
>>>> with Qt. They need to be polished more in Qt5, they need proper 
>>>> documentation, performance improvements, reducing widget dependencies and 
>>>> I guess simplified deployment should be high up on that list as well.
>>>>
>>>> Jens
>>>
>>> -- could you please bottom post, that really improves thread readability :) 
>>> --
>>>
>>> It sounds like the Qt Desktop Components have a bright future! I'm
>>> looking forward to using them besides using git clones ;)
>>>
>>> Anyway, a theming question. How can the QML Desktop Components
>>> currently be themed? Only by means of QStyle? Would there be a way to
>>> use kde's plasma themes in the QML Desktop Components? And do the
>>> desktop components depend on QWidgets only because of QStyle.
>>>
>>> // brainstorming
>>> It would be neat to have a theme plugin system. For example a
>>> structure like this:
>>>
>>> [ QStyle plugin ] -- [ Plasma plugin ] -- [ other plugin ] ...
>>>           |                             |                         |
>>>           --------------------[ Style API ]------------------
>>>                                         |
>>>                                   [ Style ] (C++ class exposed to QML)
>>>
>>> System define:
>>> QML_COMPONENTS_PLUGIN=PluginName
>>>
>>> QML just "draws" the components in the selected style.
>>>
>>> This is just made up as i type this. I could be completely wrong, but
>>> this does allow you to make one plugin that is QWidget dependent (the
>>> QStyle plugin) thus it becomes easier to make the Desktop Components
>>> QWidget independent. You just have to provide a style plugin that
>>> doesn't depend on QWidgets :)
>>> // end brainstorming
>>>
>>> I don't know if there is already something like this in place for
>>> styling, if there is, please do tell me more about it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> Fra: development-bounces+jens.bache-wiig=digia....@qt-project.org 
>>>>> [development-bounces+jens.bache-wiig=digia....@qt-project.org] p&#229; 
>>>>> vegne av Mark [mark...@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sendt: 3. oktober 2012 13:19
>>>>> To: Chris Meyer
>>>>> Cc: development
>>>>> Emne: Re: [Development] Qt desktop components project
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Chris Meyer <cmeyer1969...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Some progress for the Desktop Components for Qt 5 / Quick2 was
>>>>>> announced in June in this blog entry:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://blog.qt.digia.com/2012/06/06/desktop-components-for-qt-5/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, the project isn't listed and there is no maintainer here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Maintainers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to give some information about the future plans for
>>>>>> this project? Is active development taking place? Will it eventually
>>>>>> be an official component of the QtDeclarative module?
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>>>>>
>>>>> The development of that stuff "should" be here:
>>>>> http://qt.gitorious.org/qtplayground/qtdesktopcomponents I say
>>>>> "should" because there doesn't seem to be a lot of development in
>>>>> there.
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I think the initial idea was to have it in Qt for all to use. Also
please note that in KDE we're moving towards a space where being in Qt
or not will be a matter of repository more than technology. ;)

Cheers!
Aleix

PS: If you want to ask further about the styles, I'd recommend to
start a new thread, with a new subject...
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