I want to come back and encourage that we take fine-grained steps. As @Hzfengsy 
 mentioned, many community members, including himself, had to overcome a large 
language barrier to be able to come out and help facilitate this process. 
Having a dragging conversation simply due to bundling reduces the ability for 
volunteers to participate, which goes against core one principle of ASF – which 
is empowering everyone. We should reduce such burden by having well scoped 
proposals, knowing that with a growing community, the conversation always 
continues. 

One observation is that there can be a disagreement on how much bundling we 
have in making decisions. I would like to come back and acknowledge what you 
stated, @areusch  have clearly made  points– requiring all approvals, requiring 
S1 and S2 discussions, and bundling stability discussion to be addressed is a 
valid position on how we do things to establish this process.

It is also clear that many others had a different position, that emphasizes on 
empowering the majority of the community, more fine-grained decision making so 
we don’t have to bundle all these conversations together and continue to 
empower each other.

They are different valid opinions on how we shall operate. After acknowledging 
each other’s views, take these into context, and have a constructive 
conversation, I recommend listening to the majority community's voices and 
empowering the community.


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