Andrew,

On 5/6/15 9:21 AM, Andrew Carr wrote:
> I can see security of this tool being paramount.  What if you had a large
> cluster and someone else was able to manipulate it using this tool?

If it's built on secure building blocks, such as public-key-based ssh
authentication, or TLS client certificates, then I think it would be
reasonably secure.

Another option is a VPN or VLAN, or a separate physical network.

We use the latter technique to communicate between our application
servers and database servers to avoid the overhead of encryption.

-chris

> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Christopher Schultz <
> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> 
>> Chris,
>>
>> On 5/5/15 4:39 PM, Chris Aguirre wrote:
>>> I actually use Windows Powershell to execute commands on remote machines,
>>> including stopping/starting Tomcat (and other Windows Services).
>>>
>>> This works well for me - but in this case, I have complete control of all
>>> the VMs - and they are not Production Servers.
>>>
>>> I used the following articles as reference for creating the Powershell
>>> scripts:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/117192/how-to-run-powershell-commands-on-remote-computers/
>>>
>>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6239647/using-powershell-credentials-without-being-prompted-for-a-password
>>
>> That's great. *NIX also has ssh which can be used to execute remote
>> commands, but that's not the hard part.
>>
>> The hard part is planning a regular configuration that can be deployed
>> to possibly hundreds of separate machines (virtual or physical) and then
>> controlled in a sane way.
>>
>> For instance, let's say that I have 12 machines in two separate
>> clusters. If I want to shutdown 3 machines in each cluster, I have to
>> execute a flurry of commands like these:
>>
>> $ ssh -c user@server1 /path/to/tomcat/shutdown.sh
>> $ ssh -c user@server2 /path/to/tomcat/shutdown.sh
>> $ ssh -c user@server3 /path/to/tomcat/shutdown.sh
>>
>> $ ssh -c user@server7 /path/to/tomcat/shutdown.sh
>> $ ssh -c user@server8 /path/to/tomcat/shutdown.sh
>> $ ssh -c user@server9 /path/to/tomcat/shutdown.sh
>>
>> If I had a tool that understood my deployment configuration, I could do
>> something like this:
>>
>> $ cluster shutdown 1 2 3 7 8 9
>>
>> If the tool was *really* nice, it might inform my load-balancer that the
>> nodes would be coming down as well.
>>
>> If it was super-nice, a tool would allow me to schedule a shutdown of
>> nodes in the near future. For example, say I want to take those same
>> nodes offline, but I want to disable them at the lb, then wait for their
>> sticky sessions to drain folly before stopping each Tomcat instance. And
>> since I don't want to watch the tool while it waits, I want to get an
>> email or SMS confirmation when each node goes down.
>>
>> Maybe I can get integration into monitoring tools as well, so when I
>> intentionally take a node offline, I don't get a bunch of text messages
>> telling me that a server has gone down.
>>
>> These are the kinds of things that a "grid" tool could do to help.
>>
>> Being able to execute remote commands is just one of the primitive
>> operations of this kind of thing.
>>
>> -chris
>>
>>
> 
> 

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