Mark,
Mark,

On 1/26/15 2:41 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 26/01/2015 15:31, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>> On 1/26/15 3:31 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> On 24/01/2015 19:21, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>>> 2015-01-24 13:00 GMT+03:00  <ma...@apache.org>:
>>>>> Author: markt
>>>>> Date: Sat Jan 24 10:00:32 2015
>>>>> New Revision: 1654487
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1654487
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> Prep for next tag
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>     tomcat/tc8.0.x/trunk/build.properties.default
>>>>>     tomcat/tc8.0.x/trunk/res/maven/mvn.properties.default
>>>>>     tomcat/tc8.0.x/trunk/webapps/docs/changelog.xml
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Modified: tomcat/tc8.0.x/trunk/webapps/docs/changelog.xml
>>>>> URL: 
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/tc8.0.x/trunk/webapps/docs/changelog.xml?rev=1654487&r1=1654486&r2=1654487&view=diff
>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>> --- tomcat/tc8.0.x/trunk/webapps/docs/changelog.xml (original)
>>>>> +++ tomcat/tc8.0.x/trunk/webapps/docs/changelog.xml Sat Jan 24 10:00:32 
>>>>> 2015
>>>>> @@ -44,7 +44,9 @@
>>>>>    They eventually become mixed with the numbered issues. (I.e., numbered
>>>>>    issues to not "pop up" wrt. others).
>>>>>  -->
>>>>> -<section name="Tomcat 8.0.18 (markt)">
>>>>> +<section name="Tomcat 8.0.19 (markt)" rtext="in developent">
>>>>
>>>> 1. Typo: in development
>>>
>>> Fixed. Thanks.
>>>
>>>> 2. An interesting idea, but release manager would have to remove that
>>>> text when creating a tag. If you do not mind that extra work, then an
>>>> item should be added to Release process description in the Wiki.
>>>
>>> I'll see how I get on with it. It was a spur of the moment thing so I
>>> might go off the idea.
>>
>> Assuming I'm reading that correctly, it implies that we might be
>> publishing changelogs *before* a release has actually been rolled.
> 
> It is mainly there for folks that look at the file in svn or on the CI
> server.
> 
>> I
>> really like this idea, if for no other reason than the changelog often
>> doesn't get updated with the latest release date until the *following*
>> release, which is ... irritating. :)
> 
> No easy way to fix that.

If we have marker text that means "in development", we can re-build the
site from svn trunk whenever we want and we can even remove the "in
development" builds if we want.

>> What about having instead of "release text" or whatever, maybe an ENUM
>> which contains a few mnemonics like "dev", "release", "votefail", etc.?
>> That can be validated by an XML validator and the XSLT can produce
>> standardized text for each status.
> 
> Not sure how that would help with the most important part which is the date.

Good point. Do you not use a release script that does that for you?

-chris

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