On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes but if it runs in a JavaEE container (J2EE doesn't exist anymore
> if i'm not mistaken) or at least a servlet container what is the
> minimum required?
>


A beer or two ... or more are needed here to resolve this dispute .... :)



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> 2013/10/29 Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>:
> > On 29/10/2013 13:24, Niki Dokovski wrote:
> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 29/10/2013 13:01, Niki Dokovski wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 29/10/2013 12:41, Niki Dokovski wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> WebSocket container can be used in Java SE env only but for a
> standard
> >>>>> JSR
> >>>>>> 356 compliance implementation an existing servlet container is
> needed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No it is not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Basically you are correct if you don't refer to JSR 356. But my
> >>> question
> >>>>>> was related to improving the spec, triggered by Romain's question.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wrong again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can implement a specification compliant JSR 356 server container
> >>>>> without implementing any other J2EE specs. This was an explicit
> design
> >>>>> decision made by the JSR 356 EG and explains, for example, why the
> >>>>> HttpSession instance is passed as Object rather than as
> >>>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpSession.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I still do not see where, how or why there is a specification issue
> >>> here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The simple fact that you cannot pass the TCK, hence claim
> compatibility
> >>>> proves the other way.
> >>>
> >>> If the TCK requires that the WebSocket implementation be part of a J2EE
> >>> container then that is an issue with the TCK. I only had access to a
> >>> draft of the TCK and there were much more fundamental issues with it at
> >>> that stage.
> >>>
> >>
> >> IMHO Those fundamental issues still exist then. Which still lead to a
> need
> >> of clarity on EG, which was my original question. :)
> >
> > I still don't see the need. Section 6.3 makes it very clear it is not
> > required to run in a J2EE container.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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