On 29/10/2013 13:24, Niki Dokovski wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 29/10/2013 13:01, Niki Dokovski wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/10/2013 12:41, Niki Dokovski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WebSocket container can be used in Java SE env only but for a standard
>>>> JSR
>>>>> 356 compliance implementation an existing servlet container is needed.
>>>>
>>>> No it is not.
>>>>
>>>>> Basically you are correct if you don't refer to JSR 356. But my
>> question
>>>>> was related to improving the spec, triggered by Romain's question.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>
>>>> You can implement a specification compliant JSR 356 server container
>>>> without implementing any other J2EE specs. This was an explicit design
>>>> decision made by the JSR 356 EG and explains, for example, why the
>>>> HttpSession instance is passed as Object rather than as
>>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpSession.
>>>>
>>>> I still do not see where, how or why there is a specification issue
>> here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The simple fact that you cannot pass the TCK, hence claim compatibility
>>> proves the other way.
>>
>> If the TCK requires that the WebSocket implementation be part of a J2EE
>> container then that is an issue with the TCK. I only had access to a
>> draft of the TCK and there were much more fundamental issues with it at
>> that stage.
>>
> 
> IMHO Those fundamental issues still exist then. Which still lead to a need
> of clarity on EG, which was my original question. :)

I still don't see the need. Section 6.3 makes it very clear it is not
required to run in a J2EE container.

Mark


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