On 12/07/2010 11:28, Marc Guillemot wrote: > Mark Thomas wrote: >> Taking a confrontational approach isn't going to win you any friends and >> isn't going to help you achieve the changes you want. > > I know, but it is a desperate step. I have tried following approaches: > - provide patches ready to apply -> failed
Which have received feedback and discussion is still ongoing. Why view that as a failure? > - start discussion about usage of recognized methods to improve code > quality -> not really a success Not sure which bit of the various threads you are referring to. No, not everyone agrees with all your views or how to implement them. My advice would be get used to it, focus on the bits where there is agreement and remember that folks can change their mind - particularly once something is demonstrated to be successful. > - try to be ironical and to let you know that the concurrence is far > better here -> according to your comment, it seems that it fails as well Irony doesn't work very well on a mailing list. It works even less well when not everybody's first language is English. > Before to give up I'll try to praise the quality of the code and give > you all kudos for it. Perhaps is this the right way but I have a > problem: I don't know how to formulate my wish for code improvements > when I praise the code at the same time :-( Remaining polite would be a good place to start. Your attitude really isn't helping. As has been pointed out numerous times you are trying to persuade the Tomcat project to make changes that have historically been viewed as controversial and that a number of committers have very strong objections to and valid reasons for those objections. (Whilst I don't agree with those views I do respect them and understand them.) Being antagonistic, ironic or sarcastic simply isn't the way to make progress. Before I read you latest e-mail, I was intending to tidy up the patch attached to bug 49268 and look at applying it to trunk. Right now that looks like rewarding behaviour I have no wish to encourage so I'll be spending my time on other things instead. I'll circle back to this eventually. Of course, one of the other committers may look at it before me. Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org
