Costin Manolache wrote:
On 9/20/07, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sep 19, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Bill Barker wrote:
TC 4.1.x and TC 5.5.x represented major changes to the core API, and
resulted in much more stable Tomcat code. There is no such issue
for TC
6.0.x (just a disagreement on the comet API, which we have already
dealt
with, and decided to let software-darwinism take it's course).
When I suggested a TC 6.0 and 6.5 dual approach, Costin said:
"Strong -1 on this. Done that - didn't work so good, and it
doesn't solve
the core problem - it's not about 'cutting edge' versus 'stable',..."
Context needed :-)
-1 was on having a TC6.5 as a way to resolve conflicts ( so some people can
make broad
changes in one and some in other without having to 'discuss'/argue/veto ).
The transition between 5.5 to 6.0 ( AFAIK ) was based on '5.5 is mostly
frozen, only important
and select changes backported, all new activity on 6.0'.
I also don't think a 6.5 is needed unless there is no huge architecture and
API change, as it happened in 5.5->6.0,
well, we have the annotation changes needed for geronimo, that were not
allowed in 6.0
personally, I think that was enough to keep trunk alive.
Let's say that I did have a huge architecture change, lets say, I want
to swap out ByteChunk/CharChunk for ByteBuffer/CharBuffer and also use
nio charset conversion,
then doing that in trunk is not so appropriate either. So I will do that
in sandbox, the right place for an experiment like that. Maybe it turns
out that it worked perfectly, and we want to put that into Tomcat, we
can't put it in 6.0, that would be insane, and we don't have a trunk, so
where do we put it?
Removing trunk, pretty much halted any chances for future innovation, as
approved sandbox experiments have nowhere to go.
but my 'strong -1' was for the reasons above. I don't mind having a 6.5 -
if both Remy and Filip and all other
people who are actively developing move to 6.5 so changes get the right
review ( instead of 'that's my branch, that's yours' )
the "my" vs "your" should have never happened, and when those terms were
coined, they should have been shutdown that very minute.
I never believed in those terms for sure.
Filip
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