On 19/06/2025 17:13, Christopher Schultz wrote:

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I guess maybe I don't understand the issue. BZ always required an account to write, and anyone could register for an account. A small hurdle, but present. The same is true for GitHub.

I'm not sure why we care about AI scrapers, given that all the mailing lists and source code are also public. Everything produced by the ASF and its committers over the years has already been stolen and had whatever IP protections it had stripped and thrown into a big blender.

How does requiring a login to BZ to even *see* the bugs change anything? Or is this an issue of scale? AI scrapers want to pull every bug for the past 20 years and it's killing the service? And GitHub just has effectively-infinite resources?

Exactly. The AI scrapers are hitting the BZ instances hard enough it is effectively a DDoS.

The authentication (for now) blocks the more expensive requests.

I have no particular preference. GH integrates nicely with PRs and all of that. If we move to anything, I'd say GH is the way to go. I find JIRA to be insufferable for some reason.

Ack. I'd agree with "not Jira". That pretty much leaves GH issues as the only alternative - if we want to switch.

Mark


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