On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 6:30 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> It moves the problem elsewhere, how would the CLI communicate with tomcat?
> JMX, HTTP uses a port, a file based communication would be probably worse
> because of perms and other admin issues (and just not working in k8s).
>

I don't see other sane ways actually. So it seems a web-based manager with
curl is there to stay (for the time being at least).

To Chris: It's somewhat weird that the user needs a web manager just for
curl-ing certification renewal.

To everyone:
I have a suggestion on improving Documentation regarding SSL.
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-10.0-doc/ssl-howto.html
Currently, it states
Configuration
Prepare the Certificate Keystore
Tomcat currently operates only on JKS, PKCS11 or PKCS12 format keystores.

...


I think it should start with
Configuration
Option 1) Use Tomcat Native
which would showcase a path to something like:

<!-- Define an SSL Coyote HTTP/1.1 Connector on port 8443 -->
<Connector
    protocol="org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol"
    port="8443"
    maxThreads="150"
    SSLEnabled="true" >
  <SSLHostConfig>
    <Certificate
        certificateKeyFile="conf/localhost-rsa-key.pem"
        certificateFile="conf/localhost-rsa-cert.pem"
        certificateChainFile="conf/localhost-rsa-chain.pem"
        type="RSA"
        />
  </SSLHostConfig>
</Connector>

Option 2) Without Tomcat Native


...



I don't know what is the formal process for improving the documentation
here?





> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Le sam. 19 déc. 2020 à 15:24, Mladen Adamović <
> > > mladen.adamo...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > > écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:29 PM Christopher Schultz <
> > > > > > ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why not use cron? You can do this with a single "curl" command
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > > Manager+JMXProxyServlet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are not using Tomcat manager app.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why someone should be forced to use Manager, to read/setup the
> > > > > > documentation regarding JMXProxyServlet, create an additional
> > > > > > servlet (where does it have dependency on?) only to reload
> > > > automatically
> > > > > > certificates?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm proposing a solution with the simple SSLHostConfig parameter.
> > > It's
> > > > a
> > > > > > user friendly. Simple, intuitive.
> > > > > > No need for using manager, no need to create a specific servlet
> > > > somewhere
> > > > > > in your code. Just a single server.xml argument.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, *another idea*, I'm contributing this code (see below) we
> are
> > > > using
> > > > > > for Letsencrypt ACME challenge.
> > > > > > Tomcat could also have an option, i.e. in web.xml to
> automatically
> > > > > support
> > > > > > Letsencrypt ACME challenge.
> > > > > > Idea for web.xml
> > > > > >   <servlet>
> > > > > >         <servlet-name>Letsencrypt-acme</servlet-name>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> <servlet-class>org.apache.catalina.servlets.LetsencryptAcmeChallenge</servlet-class>
> > > > > >         <init-param>
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > </servlet>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are using
> > > > > > @WebServlet(name = "LetsencryptAcmeChallenge", urlPatterns =
> > > > > > {"/.well-known/acme-challenge/*"})
> > > > > > public class LetsencryptAcmeChallenge extends HttpServlet {
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   /**
> > > > > >    * Processes requests for both HTTP <code>GET</code> and
> > > > > > <code>POST</code> methods.
> > > > > >    *
> > > > > >    * @param request servlet request
> > > > > >    * @param response servlet response
> > > > > >    * @throws ServletException if a servlet-specific error occurs
> > > > > >    * @throws IOException if an I/O error occurs
> > > > > >    */
> > > > > >   protected void processRequest(HttpServletRequest request,
> > > > > > HttpServletResponse response)
> > > > > >       throws ServletException, IOException {
> > > > > >     String requestUrl = request.getRequestURL().toString();
> > > > > >     if (requestUrl.contains(".well-known/acme-challenge/")) {
> > > > > >       int indexFilename = requestUrl.lastIndexOf("/") + 1;
> > > > > >       boolean wasError = true;
> > > > > >       if (indexFilename > 0 && indexFilename <
> > requestUrl.length()) {
> > > > > >         String filename = requestUrl.substring(indexFilename);
> > > > > >         File existingFile = new
> > > > > > File("/tmp/letsencrypt/public_html/.well-known/acme-challenge/" +
> > > > > >  filename);
> > > > > >         if (existingFile.exists()) {
> > > > > >           response.setContentType("text/plain");
> > > > > >           OutputStream out = response.getOutputStream();
> > > > > >           FileInputStream in = new FileInputStream(existingFile);
> > > > > >           FilesOperations.inputStreamToOutputStream(in, out);
> > > > > >           wasError = false;
> > > > > >         }
> > > > > >       }
> > > > > >       if (wasError) {
> > > > > >         throw new ServletException("invalid requestUrl " +
> > > requestUrl);
> > > > > >       }
> > > > > >   }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from FilesOperations:
> > > > > >      public static void inputStreamToOutputStream(InputStream in,
> > > > > > OutputStream out) throws IOException {
> > > > > >         try {
> > > > > >             byte[  ] buf = new byte[32 * 1024];  // 32K buffer
> > > > > >             int bytesRead;
> > > > > >             while ((bytesRead = in.read(buf)) != -1) {
> > > > > >                 out.write(buf, 0, bytesRead);
> > > > > >             }
> > > > > >         } finally {
> > > > > >             if (in != null) {
> > > > > >               in.close();
> > > > > >               out.close();
> > > > > >             }
> > > > > >         }
> > > > > >     }
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Long*:
> > > > > > > > SSL certificates have a period of expiration and in the case
> of
> > > > > > > > Letsencrypt, it's set to 3 months as they think everyone
> should
> > > > have
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > renewal mechanism automatically.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As the Letsencrypt is the most popular SSL issuing authority
> > > > (source:
> > > > > > > > https://trends.builtwith.com/ssl/LetsEncrypt ), I think
> Tomcat
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > an integration with Letsencrypt working flawlessly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are currently using the script to renew the certificate (I
> > can
> > > > > share
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > integration details with whoever is interested, please email
> me
> > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > interested), but it's restarting Tomcat.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As Tomcat shall not be restarted ever (ideally), I think
> Tomcat
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > an option to reload certificate, without a dependency to
> Tomcat
> > > > > source
> > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > > and "hacks" like some available on StackOverflow:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5816239/how-do-i-force-tomcat-to-reload-trusted-certificates
> > > > > > > ).
> > > > > > > > Those hacks are no good as:
> > > > > > > > 1) code to reload certificate should not run inside Java
> code,
> > as
> > > > > > > > letsencrypt is invoked through Linux
> > > > > > > > 2) each application uses that Stackoverflow hack have
> > additional
> > > > > > compile
> > > > > > > > and run dependency set to Tomcat (which is very bad).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a proposal on how this should be fixed: Tomcat should
> > > have a
> > > > > > > > server.xml options something like certificateReloadAfterDays
> or
> > > > > > > > reloadAfterDays
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I see this is moved to SSLHostConfig, we are still using old
> > > > params.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you agree on this feature?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If so... I'm not lazy to try to do it myself, but as I
> haven't
> > > ever
> > > > > > > written
> > > > > > > > Tomcat code neither know procedures (I have been coding
> > > > > professionally
> > > > > > > > since 2006, but I never committed to Maven or Git project
> > before,
> > > > > lol),
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > there someone else who is keen on doing this feature?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Have a look at this:
> > > > > > >
> http://tomcat.apache.org/presentations.html#latest-lets-encrypt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -chris
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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