https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=63867
--- Comment #11 from Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> --- (In reply to Ken DeLong from comment #7) > Wow. That must be the biggest middle finger in software history. If I may > paraphrase: "Yeah, I could fix your problem in about 10 minutes and save you > a huge amount of hassle... but I'm not going to. Go screw yourself." > > If I spoke to one of our customers like this, it would be instant > termination. Not to mention I'd feel like the biggest dick on the block. > > It's good to know that users in pain can count on the Tomcat dev team to > turn the screws even harder. > > It's become clear that the use of Tomcat is a major risk to our business - > not only can we not expect support, but we can expect anti-support. I will > begin migrating to Jetty this week. Easy, now. If you want to rage-quit Tomcat, that's your prerogative. But let's not pretend that Apache Tomcat owes you anything at all. I haven't seen your email address on a single email to any of our mailing lists, ever. Going from "I'd like a feature reinstated" to "you guys are a risk to my business" in 3 days seems a little hostile for a product that seems to have kept your business going just fine for at least long enough for you to upgrade from Tomcat 8 to Tomcat 9. So if anything, you owe US something. That something I'd ask for is simply this: civility. We are all volunteers, here, and we are attempting to have a facts-based discussion. There are supporting arguments for all sides of this issue. There is no need to get emotional start yelling. I'd appreciate any spec-supported arguments both for and against continuing to support the reason phrase in Tomcat. So far, I only see support for removing it: 1. There is no "reason phrase" support in the Servlet Spec, so it is not accessible. 2. Tomcat historically used its own (non-customizable) reason phrases, therefore "200 Ok" is synonymous with "200 " 3. Previous version of HTTP/1.1 [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-6.1.1] explicitly states that the "reason phrase" is "intended for the human user" 4. Latest version of HTTP/1.1 [rfc7231] basically says they are arbitrary, and are therefore (my conclusion) meaningless The only support for retaining it is: 1. Users are asking for it 2. No other web server seems to have removed it IOW, inertia is the only thing keeping the reason phrase around. That's a powerful motivator, honestly, IMHO. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org
