Costin Manolache wrote:
On 3/5/06, Remy Maucherat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Costin Manolache wrote:
Using less memory and supporting users who don't run tomcat on huge
servers
is not
ridiculous. And 'this is not my use case' is not a valid reason to veto
IMO.
We're talking about a very small amount of memory. Webapps which have
lots of large JSPs are not small webapps, obviously: they are going to
require lots of resources anyway. Using straight classes is quite
efficient besides the small initial memory cost.
I have a feeling you only look at one use case ( high perf, heavy loaded
server )
and can't accept there are other reasonable use cases. Well - probably I do
the
same :-), as I care more about my use case ( tomcat using low resources )
than
the big server.
How are you going to run the sort of applications we are talking about
with low amounts of memory. I am waiting for your arguments.
Maybe you have a lot of large files and just a bit of 'dynamic' behavior -
and most
pages won't get 100 requests per second, maybe just few requests per minute.
As you are aware, every technology and associated implementation has a
way to make them misbehave. I think I can also come up with perfectly
legitimate examples which defeat a low memory implementation, and make
it run like crap for no reason.
There are many web servers like this.
Web servers which use JSPs ?
Not all JSP uses are complex 'build a
pet store with
as many taglibs as possible'. Having a lot of content doesn't mean you need
a lot of
memory or CPU resources ( just a big hard drive ). The only thing that
requires lots of
resources - even if the load is very low - is the implementation of jasper,
and even this
patch can solve some of the worse effects.
These sort of uses will not require a huge amount of JSPs. Having 1MB
worth of JSP files is pretty big already (ex: the admin webapp is made
of 600KB of JSPs).
Rémy
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