Hi, Personally I am less interested in a small footprint Tomcat and more interested in tools that help manage and report on the internals of Tomcat. Instrumentation, JMX, effective and stable debugging and deployment, clustering and load balancing are the types of areas that would help me out with our corporate intranet.
I doubt any of these issues are of real concern to the development team because they are supporting of the main container, but they matter on the front-line and often piecing together different technologies via modules which have varying amounts of documentation and stability is tough and time-consuming. I've been fighting getting in WebLogic, WebSphere and Jboss but it looks like it's going that way in 2006 :( May I also take this opportunity to thank those that have helped with any queries I've had this year, Merry Christmas. I'm also very sorry I have not yet been able to accomplish what I wanted to in 2005 which was to rewrite Tomcat's documentation in DocBook. It's still something I am highly interested in as I think documentation is critical and important to everyone on the ground. All the best with Tomcat 6, I would love to help with docs where I can but I will need to see if I can work out some time. Merry Christmas, Allistair. -----Original Message----- From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 December 2005 11:12 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Tomcat 6 plans (JSP 2.1) Well a Tomcat will a small memory footprint is also very interesting for me :) For guidelines on how to use it ? 2005/12/22, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm willing to help... > > Yoav > > On 12/21/05, Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it's not about 'vote' or plans, it's more about what people > > have time to do. > > > > I have checked in the build files for a 'standalone' tomcat in the > > sandbox, I've been using the single jar almost exclusively, seems to > > work fine. But I have a feeling I'm the only one interested in this > > :-). Removing more features to make it really minimal is quite > > simple, but requires testing and a bit of work. I don't think we > > need any new code - just small adjustments and different packaging - > > and a bit of will. > > > > Costin > > > > > > On 12/21/05, Henri Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - What could prevent TC 6.x to became more modular ? > > > > > > - Design, commercial dependencies or personal decisions. > > > > > > Why not send a sort of vote on some possible architectures and plans ? > > > > > > > > > 2005/12/21, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > +1 to Costin's stuff... I've been itching for a truly minimal > > > > +Tomcat > > > > distro for a while... > > > > > > > > Yoav > > > > > > > > On 12/21/05, Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I would really like to have something more modular too - I > > > > > understand that NIO and the other connector stuff is unlikely > > > > > to see the main branch, but I think 'minimal standalone + > > > > > modules' deserves a chance. > > > > > > > > > > Even if we continue to ship by default a bloated tomcat, with > > > > > all the features anyone can think of or ever wanted - having > > > > > those features organized like modules would make a lot of things easier and better. > > > > > > > > > > Almost all important platforms are designed this way - apache, > > > > > jboss, firefox, etc, it would be time for tomcat as well.. > > > > > > > > > > By minimal standalone tomcat I mean: coyote http11 + servlet + > > > > > jsp + minimal set of valves to have a TCK-accepted container. > > > > > Modules == jdbc authenticators, load balancing, ssl, jk, even > > > > > > > > > > APR, and anything that could be eventually released or upgraded independently. > > > > > > > > > > Costin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/21/05, Henri Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry, so far nobody has had the sense to propose > > > > > > > returning to the good old TC 3.3 Interceptors ;-). It looks like Evolution is here to stay. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if Interceptors would be a good solutions but > > > > > > I'd really like to have something similar to Apache modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > --------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, > > > > > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, > > > > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Yoav Shapira > > > > System Design and Management Fellow MIT Sloan School of > > > > Management Cambridge, MA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] / > > > > www.yoavshapira.com > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For > > > additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For > > additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Yoav Shapira > System Design and Management Fellow > MIT Sloan School of Management > Cambridge, MA, USA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.yoavshapira.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For > additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="VERDANA,ARIAL" COLOR=BLUE> ------------------------------------------------------- QAS Ltd. 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