Allistair Crossley wrote:
Hi,

Personally I am less interested in a small footprint Tomcat and more
interested in tools that help manage and report on the internals of
Tomcat. Instrumentation, JMX, effective and stable debugging and
deployment, clustering and load balancing are the types of areas that
would help me out with our corporate intranet.
I doubt any of these issues are of real concern to the development team
because they are supporting of the main container, but they matter on
the front-line and often piecing together different technologies via
modules which have varying amounts of documentation and stability is
tough and time-consuming. I've been fighting getting in WebLogic,
WebSphere and Jboss but it looks like it's going that way in 2006 :(

Personally, I am also not interested at all in changes to the container architecture either, and I plan to keep using the current codebase to do the Servlet 2.5 support in JBoss. It mostly does what I need, and I think changing it a lot would break more things than what it would fix.

- Debugging: No idea, do you have some ?
- Deployment: Ok, it's an independent module (HostConfig, and the associated manager webapp, basically); I did it twice already, I think it's half decent, but I am sick of it, so if anyone feels like doing it again, go ahead. - Clustering: We have clustering already. What's wrong with it besides bugs ? (if it had bugs, it's because of not enough users, testing, and bugfix contributors: you can help) - Load balancing: We have mod_jk, and now mod_proxy in Apache 2.2. Do you need more ? I had ideas for an AJP APR client implementation, but I am not sure there's an actual demand for that (I don't see the point of having a Tomcat as a front end server, given it's a single purpose task and exisitng ASF software seem to be doing it just as well).

BTW, I am biased, but I don't see a move to JBoss as being that bad. If you use a web oriented configuration, you end up with something that has the same web capabilities as Tomcat, but with a few more robust components for important functionality (TM, datasource, clustering, etc). Unfortunately, it uses more resources ;)

May I also take this opportunity to thank those that have helped with
any queries I've had this year, Merry Christmas. I'm also very sorry I
have not yet been able to accomplish what I wanted to in 2005 which was
to rewrite Tomcat's documentation in DocBook. It's still something I am
highly interested in as I think documentation is critical and important
to everyone on the ground.

All the best with Tomcat 6, I would love to help with docs where I can
but I will need to see if I can work out some time.

Rémy

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