benweidig commented on PR #57:
URL: https://github.com/apache/tapestry-5/pull/57#issuecomment-4214512255

   Hi @lkasso,
   Thanks for the PR!
   
   We really appreciate the Gradle team taking an interest in keeping 
Tapestry's build up to date!
   Eventually, we want to migrate to Gradle 9, but the timing isn't quite right 
for us (yet).
   
   Here's our reasoning:
   
   We are in the final sprint of a significant revamp of our Gradle setup for 
the next Tapestry version, planned to be released soon.
   The switch to Gradle 8, conventions, and other changes was a substantial 
effort, and we're still in the stabilization phase, addressing minor issues 
that only surface over time with real-world usage. Taking on another major 
build system change at this time would be premature.
   
   Besides Gradle, we also revamped our CI approach as a whole, using Jenkins 
multi-branch pipeline matrix builds.
   Given Tapestry's bytecode manipulation via Plastic/ASM, we always tested on 
the actual supported JDKs (minimum 8/11). 
   
   Gradle 9 requiring JDK 17+ as the runtime means we'd need to adopt 
toolchains to keep testing on lower JDK versions. We're aware toolchains can 
solve this automatically, but we have so far no experience on it, ecspecially 
on the Apache CI system. We'd want to rely on auto-discovery rather than Foojay 
auto-provisioning on shared build nodes, so this investigation deserves its own 
focused effort.
   
   Our plan is to use the current stabilization period to research and 
prototype the toolchain setup against local CI infrastructure for faster 
iteration times and if we're sure about it, against Apache's CI infrastructure, 
so that when we do target Gradle 9 (which we're currently planning for 5.11, 
the release after next), we can do it properly and completely.
   
   We will keep this PR open as a reference and starting point for that future 
work.
   And of course, any further collaboration/guidance on the toolchain migration 
is very welcome!


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