> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 3:19 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: My last advance notice regarding Big Sur (was: 
> What we should do now)
> 
> 
> 
> > On Dec 31, 2020, at 5:06 AM, Jörg Schmidt 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Although it was clear to everyone here that the issue needs 
> a quick solution, and although there were many discussion 
> posts and a lot of hard work in revising the blogpost, 
> nothing relevant has happened yet.
> 
> Are you crazy? Did you not see that I tracked down the cause, 
> and that we have a set of 4.1.9 Developer test builds 
> available for people to down and test? But instead of 
> acknowledging the amount of work done fixing the *root 
> cause*, during what many consider a holiday break, you are 
> instead bitching and moaning about not getting a blog out as 
> per *your* schedule.

No, I am not crazy. And I had, here in the concrete,. expressly appreciative 
words for the work done expressed. (what I do not always)

At the same time it is not so that you and those who are of your opinion, 
automatically right, because there are now once 2 possibilities: 
 
either:
-we quickly publish an information for the users and work in parallel to fix 
the bug

or:
-we focus only on one patch (and inform only when we release the final patch)

(I'm talking about "patch", but if there will be a 4.1.9, I mean this one)


The "either" was, here in concrete, not automatically controversial, because 
e.g. Peter recognized the importance of an information and reacted very fast by 
writing a draft.

Why are you trying to tell me that you are right (because you prioritize the 
patch) and I am wrong (because I prioritize the information for the users), 
_when in fact we only have different opinions about what has more priority_?

> "Nothing relevant"?

Sorry if this is unclear, I meant of course that the users are confronted with 
the faulty function of AOO without having any information, so also no 
information that tells them that we have long been working on the elimination 
of the error.

Exactly this information to give publicly as soon as possible, I would have 
found important.

> Please do not resort to threats, especially when they are 
> based on false reality.

I didn't threaten anyone, I announced something I didn't even have to announce, 
because there is no rule that forbids me as a committer to make changes in the 
wiki.

Let me also argue clearly at this point: I am always ready to accept criticism 
when I break rules, but other opinions are not rules, they are just opinions.
By the way: anyone could have disagreed with me in the thread I clearly marked 
"Consensus Building" (that would have been in accordance with the rules) but no 
one did.  



Jörg


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