On 03/18/2016 08:04 AM, Marcus wrote: > Am 03/18/2016 03:18 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: >> When I was working I gave up some of my freedom to do what >> I wanted in >> exchange for being paid to do what other people told me. >> >> I retired when I had accumulated enough investments that >> the financial >> improvement from the money Sun was paying me no longer >> outweighed the >> benefit of being able to decide for myself what to do with >> my time. My >> 10 a.m. horseback riding lesson this morning will be far >> higher priority >> than OpenOffice debug. >> >> I do not see being a "Release Manager" as carrying any >> authority at all >> over others. I might need to persuade, suggest, beg, and >> plead, but I >> would not expect to be able to compel, not even to the >> limited extent I >> could when I was a project leader in industry. > > exactly. There is no disciplinary power in the role of a > release manager. It's more a role - instead of a job title - > to make sure that a release will happen. > > You can a) do all things alone, b) do some tasks together > with a team or c) nearly nothing except to pull the strings > to make sure there will be a release at all. I think you > would prefer point b). > >> If the term "Release Manager" is creating an idea of a job >> something >> like being a manager in industry, maybe we need a more >> realistic term >> such as "Keeper of the Release Checklist". > > BTW: > There is already one [1] in case you don't know yet. > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Planning+Template > > > Marcus
Yes, and it's a pretty good one at that! :) > > > >> On 3/18/2016 5:20 AM, donaldupre . wrote: >>> In the same way management in your professional >>> experience handled >>> disagreement, disrespect, waste, inefficiency etc. that >>> sometimes happen >>> when people work together. >>> You did offer to learn to be a release manager, it means >>> that some >>> sort of >>> "management" is needed? >>> How someone here suggested making a release without a >>> manger is beyond >>> me... >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Patricia Shanahan >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I am really, really curious. How would you recommend the >>>> hypothetical >>>> AOO >>>> management hierarchy go about compelling me to do anything? >>>> >>>> On 3/17/2016 10:41 AM, donaldupre . wrote: >>>> >>>>> Not only it is possible to compel, it is imperative for >>>>> a viable >>>>> project. >>>>> As Stalin once said, "When there's a person, there's a >>>>> problem." :) -- -------------------------------------------- MzK "Time spent with cats is never wasted." -- Sigmund Freud --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
