Am 03/17/2016 09:00 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni:
Hello;

I don't know (or care) what donaldupre meant by that "holacracy"
thing but the ASF does have clear governance structures.

Concerning a Release Manager I found this:

http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html#release_manager

"The common practice at Apache is for a single individual to take
responsibility for the mechanics of a release."

Note that that common practice doesn't make it mandatory (although
pretty much a hint in the right direction). However the link also
states:

"Release managers do the work of pushing out releases. However, release
managers are not ultimately responsible."

I brought the subject the release management being done by a group of
people before the previous release based on some older document from
the apache httpd project, I will not repeat again that idea, but I think
that instead of focusing on find ing one brave sould to do everything,
the community would do better to focus on a *group* doing things.

right, in the past this was also already done. E.g., Jürgen has taken over the hat as release maanger. However, he has done "only" the Mac and Windows builds. But Ariel has done all Linux builds and others have taken care for release notes, website updates, release announcement, blog post, etc.

If one person bears all the responsibilities including building for Mac,
Windows and Linux then it is going to be increasingly difficult
to find a new release manager each time.

For sure. And I don't know anybody who can do all these things alone. IMHO the most difficult thing is to find people (plural ;-) ) that can build on all platforms we need *with the same* build configuration. This is an absolutely "must have" as we want comparable builds even when they are done on different platforms.

Then others can do the work when the builds are ready, starting with distributing to the mirrors.

What is also increasingly clear to me is that a release won't happen
immediately soon, even when technically we would be ready for one.

For 4.2.0 we should take more time than previously done for testing. I'm pretty sure there are some bugs that should be fixed for the final version. ;-) And this needs time.

The good thing is that we are still (a bit) at the beginning of the year. So, when we agree to do a new release until the summer vacation starts around the world, then this would be great.

My 2 ct.

Marcus


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