... and of course I mean Contegix instead of Canonical.

:)

Slight synaptic malfunction in the cognitive department, there.



2013/6/28 Lennart Jörelid <[email protected]>

> I presume that most of us who have worked with distributed VCS's [Git or
> Mercurial, really] prefer them over SVN - just like we all felt when moving
> from CVS to SVN in the old days. It is simpler and considerably more agile
> to work in a DCVS environment for distributed projects, just like the Linux
> kernel folks figured out awhile ago.
>
> I presume that hosting repos at Canonical does not exclude us from using
> GIT or Mercurial as the VCS of choice, right?
> The alternative - splicing the mojo SVN repo into many smaller repos and
> moving them to GitHub - present both problems and opportunities. While I
> believe that the problems are more of a "brand" or "marketing" nature
> rather than a technical one ("does codehaus really exist if only spread as
> a set of repos @ Github"), I would prefer working with either Git or
> Mercurial.
>
> ... and I would love if they would be hosted and collaborated on @
> codehaus.
>
>
> 2013/6/28 Baptiste MATHUS <[email protected]>
>
>> Not sure what your point is here.
>>
>> The thing is Git makes it *very* easy to just mirror entire repository.
>> So even if we kept the canonical repositories somewhere at codehaus, that
>> wouldn't prevent people from cloning an just pushing those repos onto their
>> public clone @github or anywhere else.
>>
>> (Side note: I love Git).
>>
>>
>> 2013/6/28 Fred Cooke <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Absolutely agree with the canonical source thing! Any mirroring effort
>>> should be considered a temporary thing, and a migration path once the tools
>>> mature enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There were some projects which moved to GIT.
>>>>
>>>> But after a short while they are now all DEAD!
>>>>
>>>> This has nothing to do with GIT itself (which I love), but with the
>>>> missing 'ownership'.
>>>> It's totally easy on github to just fork a project and fix your bug
>>>> there - fully agree!
>>>> But what about merging this stuff back? Well, this just does not happen
>>>> most of the time.
>>>>
>>>> And this is the reason why I still love to have those projects over
>>>> here at codehaus, eclipse or apache.
>>>>
>>>> Mostly because all people then know where to get the origin from.
>>>>
>>>> Again, this has nothing to do with GIT vs SVN. It just has to do with
>>>> having some 'cannonical' source or not.
>>>>
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >________________________________
>>>> > From: Jochen Wiedmann <[email protected]>
>>>> >To: [email protected]
>>>> >Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013, 16:07
>>>> >Subject: Re: [mojo-dev] Re: Mojo GIT migration or mirroring?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Just asking: Does Github offer to provide an SVN mirror? Or is there
>>>> any other way to have a mirror without too much hazzle?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Fred Cooke <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>For GIT users there are several ways to work with SVN, so that's
>>>> probably why this isn't that urgent.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>That's not really a good reason not to, because:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    * The SVN >> Git process isn't fast (because SVN is itself SLOW)
>>>> >>    * Each converter has to find motivation to bother setting this up
>>>> and doing it in the first place. (read, they'll just not bother most of the
>>>> time)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    * Each conversion will have a different set of hashes even if the
>>>> other parameters are the same and thus won't be able to be collaborated
>>>> between effectively. Having a single official mirror means others can
>>>> effectively work together on "it" with the final result pulled back into
>>>> SVN when ready and then automatically pushed back to Git again. The work
>>>> flow is a pain, but still a lot better than suffering SVN in the first
>>>> place.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>migrate > 1 official mirror (per mojo) > N unofficial mirrors/leave
>>>> it alone
>>>> >>
>>>> >>I'm not ignoring the work involved in mirroring, just pointing out
>>>> some facts. I don't think the Maven tool-set / infrastructure is 100% ready
>>>> for Git, to be perfectly honest. The sink or swim method may be a good way
>>>> to get it there, but might be painful, too. I'd certainly appreciate more
>>>> Git friendly behaviour, though :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Fred.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Robert
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:44:33 +0200, Lennart Jörelid <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Folks... if anyone has an answer to this question, I would be all
>>>> ears.
>>>> >>>>Can I work with GIT or Mercurial here? Onto some mirror?
>>>> >>>>If not - is there a process to distribute projects/plugins to
>>>> GitHub?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>2013/6/25 Lennart Jörelid <[email protected]>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>Hello all,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>I wonder if the Mojo project has a structured way of migrating to a
>>>> >>>>>distributed VCS (GIT, presumably, or Mercurial) for various
>>>> currently
>>>> >>>>>SVN-based projects - or any policy on a 2-way mirroring between
>>>> the two
>>>> >>>>>VCS'es.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>I believe distributed VCSs increase visibility and reduce
>>>> complexity for
>>>> >>>>>donning a patch compared to the standard subversion way,
>>>> particularly with
>>>> >>>>>the help of processes and services such as GitHub or BitBucket.
>>>> Anything
>>>> >>>>>that can increase visibility and reduce hinders in contributing
>>>> patches to
>>>> >>>>>projects is in itself a Good Thing.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>So ... is there a Git/Mercurial mirror or migration process for SVN
>>>> >>>>>projects at Codehaus?
>>>> >>>>>If so - where can I find access details?
>>>> >>>>>If not - why?
>>>> >>>>>
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