I presume that most of us who have worked with distributed VCS's [Git or
Mercurial, really] prefer them over SVN - just like we all felt when moving
from CVS to SVN in the old days. It is simpler and considerably more agile
to work in a DCVS environment for distributed projects, just like the Linux
kernel folks figured out awhile ago.
I presume that hosting repos at Canonical does not exclude us from using
GIT or Mercurial as the VCS of choice, right?
The alternative - splicing the mojo SVN repo into many smaller repos and
moving them to GitHub - present both problems and opportunities. While I
believe that the problems are more of a "brand" or "marketing" nature
rather than a technical one ("does codehaus really exist if only spread as
a set of repos @ Github"), I would prefer working with either Git or
Mercurial.
... and I would love if they would be hosted and collaborated on @ codehaus.
2013/6/28 Baptiste MATHUS <[email protected]>
> Not sure what your point is here.
>
> The thing is Git makes it *very* easy to just mirror entire repository. So
> even if we kept the canonical repositories somewhere at codehaus, that
> wouldn't prevent people from cloning an just pushing those repos onto their
> public clone @github or anywhere else.
>
> (Side note: I love Git).
>
>
> 2013/6/28 Fred Cooke <[email protected]>
>
>> Absolutely agree with the canonical source thing! Any mirroring effort
>> should be considered a temporary thing, and a migration path once the tools
>> mature enough.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There were some projects which moved to GIT.
>>>
>>> But after a short while they are now all DEAD!
>>>
>>> This has nothing to do with GIT itself (which I love), but with the
>>> missing 'ownership'.
>>> It's totally easy on github to just fork a project and fix your bug
>>> there - fully agree!
>>> But what about merging this stuff back? Well, this just does not happen
>>> most of the time.
>>>
>>> And this is the reason why I still love to have those projects over here
>>> at codehaus, eclipse or apache.
>>>
>>> Mostly because all people then know where to get the origin from.
>>>
>>> Again, this has nothing to do with GIT vs SVN. It just has to do with
>>> having some 'cannonical' source or not.
>>>
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >________________________________
>>> > From: Jochen Wiedmann <[email protected]>
>>> >To: [email protected]
>>> >Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013, 16:07
>>> >Subject: Re: [mojo-dev] Re: Mojo GIT migration or mirroring?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Just asking: Does Github offer to provide an SVN mirror? Or is there
>>> any other way to have a mirror without too much hazzle?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Fred Cooke <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>For GIT users there are several ways to work with SVN, so that's
>>> probably why this isn't that urgent.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>That's not really a good reason not to, because:
>>> >>
>>> >> * The SVN >> Git process isn't fast (because SVN is itself SLOW)
>>> >> * Each converter has to find motivation to bother setting this up
>>> and doing it in the first place. (read, they'll just not bother most of the
>>> time)
>>> >>
>>> >> * Each conversion will have a different set of hashes even if the
>>> other parameters are the same and thus won't be able to be collaborated
>>> between effectively. Having a single official mirror means others can
>>> effectively work together on "it" with the final result pulled back into
>>> SVN when ready and then automatically pushed back to Git again. The work
>>> flow is a pain, but still a lot better than suffering SVN in the first
>>> place.
>>> >>
>>> >>migrate > 1 official mirror (per mojo) > N unofficial mirrors/leave it
>>> alone
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm not ignoring the work involved in mirroring, just pointing out
>>> some facts. I don't think the Maven tool-set / infrastructure is 100% ready
>>> for Git, to be perfectly honest. The sink or swim method may be a good way
>>> to get it there, but might be painful, too. I'd certainly appreciate more
>>> Git friendly behaviour, though :-)
>>> >>
>>> >>Fred.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Robert
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:44:33 +0200, Lennart Jörelid <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Folks... if anyone has an answer to this question, I would be all
>>> ears.
>>> >>>>Can I work with GIT or Mercurial here? Onto some mirror?
>>> >>>>If not - is there a process to distribute projects/plugins to GitHub?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>2013/6/25 Lennart Jörelid <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Hello all,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>I wonder if the Mojo project has a structured way of migrating to a
>>> >>>>>distributed VCS (GIT, presumably, or Mercurial) for various
>>> currently
>>> >>>>>SVN-based projects - or any policy on a 2-way mirroring between the
>>> two
>>> >>>>>VCS'es.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>I believe distributed VCSs increase visibility and reduce
>>> complexity for
>>> >>>>>donning a patch compared to the standard subversion way,
>>> particularly with
>>> >>>>>the help of processes and services such as GitHub or BitBucket.
>>> Anything
>>> >>>>>that can increase visibility and reduce hinders in contributing
>>> patches to
>>> >>>>>projects is in itself a Good Thing.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>So ... is there a Git/Mercurial mirror or migration process for SVN
>>> >>>>>projects at Codehaus?
>>> >>>>>If so - where can I find access details?
>>> >>>>>If not - why?
>>> >>>>>
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